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crexcrex, you're preaching to the choir. I happen to agree with your overall assesment of VG's, but the goal here is to present some quality data with some semblance of reliability & validity.
If we only offer subjective, anecdotal experience, it will simply be countered by someone else whose anecdotal experience seemed to produce the opposite results. Then we have a relatively useless "he said, she said" situation that won't help anyone looking for quality information.
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