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Originally Posted by redpoint5
Musk absolutely is to blame for selling a product he couldn't deliver. That said, consumers are to blame too. Who pays for an experimental technology up front AND believes Musks lie that technology just gets more expensive in the future, and that now is the cheapest it will ever be. There are zero technologies that were cheapest in the experimental stage and most expensive once fully mature, adopted, and replicated across the industry.
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To date Tesla has been steadily increasing the price of FSD. So at least with Tesla it isn't a lie.
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Originally Posted by bwilson4web
FSD is still 'beta' which means there are reproducible errors. Happily the beta testers are pretty good about sharing the weaker parts.
Being resentful about the development delay does no good. As a beta tester, I'm impressed with the current performance, a C+ or B- grade.
Bob Wilson
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You have an understandable take on FSD for someone that bought it in 2019. At that time it was clear that Tesla will always be 1 year away from true "Full Self Driving" and you are buying a Level 2 system at best.
However, my friend bought in at the beginning trusting that Musk would deliver on that initial promise. I can understand someone being upset that 5 years later what was promised in 1 year has not been delivered and never will be.
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Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary
I just looked up on Plugshare and actually the CCS and maybe even Chademo stations are more prevalent than the Tesla stations. If I had a 200 mile range EV, I could quite easily make a car work that charged from those stations. This is interesting.
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This is a common mistake. At one time Tesla did have a far larger charging network but CCS caught up and passed them a few years ago. Using the adopted US charging standard that dozens of public charging networks are building out is a clear advantage.