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Old 06-13-2022, 09:20 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Well this has been an interesting talk.

All of you have made interesting points.

Many have made me consider if this is anything at all.

But many points did not shut down the concept completely.

There is too many main stream stories of Gasoline vapor, and of standard high mileage cars:

Like this:

https://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/10/08...ars-1978-1981/

https://www.mpgomatic.com/2007/10/22...mpg-cars-1990/

https://drivesmartwarranty.com/car-c...000s-2000-2010

https://www.motherearthnews.com/sust...s-zb0z11zblon/

And there are cars outside the US that are reported to do better.

Like the VW Blue Motion:

The stand-alone BlueMotion models carried a hefty price premium over the equivalent, standard car when new. Despite achieving significantly better fuel economy – up to 88.3mpg in the Golf BlueMotion – it took a lot of miles for the savings on fuel to even out the extra purchase cost. As such, they didn’t sell particularly well in the UK.


FYI That is 73.53 MPG using us Gallons.

https://www.carwow.co.uk/blog/volksw...tion-explained

I learned of this car and a couple others in a TV show called Top Gear where they did a range driving test:

An English TV show Top Gear Series 12 Ep. 4 Summary: This week's challenge is to drive from Basel in Switzerland, to the north west coast of England. This must be done on just one tank of petrol - no splashing and dashing in France, just one tank. The first to arrive - if any do - gets the honor of switching on Blackpool's illuminations. Some 740 Miles. Air Date: November 23, 2008

So one car is a Volkswagen Polo Blue Motion, a Diesel 3 cylinder that is rated at 75MPG!!!!! and has a 10 Gal. tank driven by Richard Hammond. The second car driven by James May was a Subaru Legacy diesel rated at 50MPG and has a larger tank lastly. Jeremy Clarkson shows up with a Jaguar XJ diesel, this is a full sized car with four doors etc. His plan was to run out of gas near London and thus go home, it was rated at 35MPG.

What happened?? First ALL three cars made the 740 Mile trip!!! What is even more insane was at the end of this show Jeremy Clarkson whom did NOT drive sanely until he had passed London was very surprised the Jag made it by wait there is more, he reported the shows engineers checked how much gas was left in the tank and reported that the Jag could have gone 260 Miles MORE that meant the Jag had a range of 1000 MILE per tank.

And again that is ONLY 832.67MPG on us Gallons.

These numbers show that we within the USA are not getting the best MPG cars.

There seems to be a effort to make our cars use a lot more fuel that needed.

It has been reported because our cars are required to run cats, there are programs in our PCMs to feed them, that with a lean burn cats will go cold due to lack of fuel to light them up. So they prevent this from happening.

I often think all this is a case of smoke and mirrors.

I think the fix is in.

Cars have done better MPG in the past.

It just seems that with all the almost unbelievable tech we now see in cars they still cannot even match some of the cars of the 70s and 80s.

And how most of those cars are not made in the USA.

Rich

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