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Originally Posted by freebeard
State of Oregon does that. $2500 more rebate if you qualify.
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For a car. Most people don't have an electric car - they use electricity in their house.
How about insulation, windows, heat pumps, water heaters, stoves, refrigerators, washing machines, dryers, dish washers, etc?
Even the small programs that exist for the items above are generally tax credits not direct rebates so if you don't pay enough to pay income taxes you don't get the discount. Even if you do get the discount you have to wait months to get it and most poor people can't afford to pay up front with the promise they can get paid back in a year.
Those types of efficiency programs are also almost always for homeowners while the poor tend to live in rentals. Property owners have no incentive to pay more for more efficient appliances or other things to save their renters money. Paying more so someone else can pay less isn't good for the bottom line. Profits are already slim on rentals while the risk is high.
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Originally Posted by redpoint5
Voluntary is always the way big problems must be solved, because ultimately any authority requires the buy-in of the majority.
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California's utility upgrades do have the buy-in of the majority. The public elects their representatives who set the direction. If the public doesn't like that direction they can vote for new people.
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Originally Posted by redpoint5
I didn't realize PGE has a tiered schedule. That must be new.
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PGE the California utility not PGE the Oregon utility. The California PGE has 3 tiers. A baseline allowance, 100 - 400% of that baseline, and over 400% of baseline.
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Originally Posted by redpoint5
California lost residents 2 years in a row, and now with distributed work being more viable, there's less reason for the high paying tech businesses to exist there. They've got serious problems looming.
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Ah - I see California released their numbers. I was looking at the Census Bureau which shows a gain from 2019 to 2020 and a loss from 2020 to 2021.
California is losing their poor and replacing them with wealthier residents. That makes sense with the cost of living.
https://www.ppic.org/blog/whos-leavi...hos-moving-in/