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Originally Posted by Isaac Zachary
I find it funny that we compare the modern automatic to the not-so-modern manual. Manual transmissions haven't changed much since synchromesh was introduced. Automatics are totaly differnt animals than what they used to be.
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That's a good point.
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If someone would make a modern manual transmission, (maybe an automatic with the option to shift into whatever gear the driver wants is a modern manual transmission) then maybe we could have a fair comparison.
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IIRC in some previous-generation Mercedes-AMG model the torque converter of the automatic transmission was replaced by a multi-plate clutch in order to provide a more direct engagement. Not sure how it improved or decreased fuel-efficiency. But anyway, considering how the so-called automated-manual transmissions emerged as a lower-budget alternative to automatics, with the expectation of a better fuel-efficiency too, going the other way around would seem quite odd...
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I think sequential shift dog clutch transmissions should be offered as modern manuals.
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As motorcycles usually feature a sequential transmission, maybe it wouldn't be so pointless at all to have a similar setup on cars. IIRC some aftermarket suppliers have conversion kits for some mainstream transmission, including straight-cut gears with non-stock ratios, even though those are more focused for racing usage.