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Old 10-04-2022, 11:19 PM   #12 (permalink)
S Keith
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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
Disagree about used PHEV and most EVs.

How much would a used Prius Prime cost factoring in subsidies? I'd be inclined to get something like that, especially if you already like the Prius. Most of the miles would be EV, with no range anxiety for other trips.

You've got a known headache coming in the next couple years with your current vehicle, or a newer one can give you a decade+ of no hassles.

By my estimation, the wealthy (or foolish) pay the most for transportation because they buy new. Then the poor pay the most since they buy bottom dollar vehicles and are constantly working on them (if they're handy), or scrapping them for another junk car. The middle is where it's at. A 3-6 year old vehicle.

The Gen V Prius is supposedly being released spring of 2023, so that might be an opportunity to snag a Gen IV at a good price. Maybe sell your vehicle now and bike your commute until then.
It's a matter of perspective.

I've personally met a couple hundred people crushed by unexpected maintenance on a Gen2/3 Prius, FEH, Kia/Hyundai, etc. I get lots of calls about Leafs, Volts and several Fusion Energi (PHEV). Most of these are after a short period of ownership because they bought used.

With what I've seen on Gen3 packs, I'll never own one. Toyota screwed a lot up on the Gen3. Doubt Gen4 is any better as they just keep squeezing more out of the same pack.

I understand that I'm only seeing the worst, but it's not a risk I'm willing to take.

As such my experience is well beyond my personal driving/owning. I've owned a total of 11 hybrids and every single one of them had a major maintenance event (battery or other).

Given the cost of a BEV/PHEV pack, I wouldn't be okay with it unless it was 1) Under substantial remaining warranty or
2) Purchase price + battery replacement $ = acceptable to me.
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