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Old 10-06-2022, 02:44 PM   #19 (permalink)
S Keith
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One thing I haven't seen is the option of a Ford C-Max, I currently own a 2013 PHEV C-Max, it has been a great car, and the battery is still holding strong at 122K miles.

Paul (PTJONES) used to own a 2013 C-Max Hybrid (non-plug-in), and he put over 250k miles on his with original battery.

The battery in the C-Max is air-cooled.

Just my 2-cents.

What is your EV range compared to new?
What was Paul's EV range compared to new?

I can comment on these. I mentioned above the "Energi" models.

I own 7 of those packs (C-max and Fusion are identical) all sourced from salvage cars. The average SoH of the 7 is about 80% of rated. Only 3 of the miles were known, but all were under 70K miles. Given the ages of the packs, it's unlikely any had over 150K mi on them.

I have encountered a 2014 Fusion Energi with only 70K miles with only 7mi electric range due to battery degradation. Another 2014 with 220K and ~15 mi range but takes 2-3X longer to charge. I presume the battery management is reducing the charge current due to some parameter associated with degradation. This car was used for rideshare, and the driver was interested in maximizing economy and kept the interior cool with A/C.

Being air cooled, heat is a huge factor. In a mild climate, on a well maintained car, I would expect >80% SoH at 150K miles. Driving style also plays a big role. Babying it will reduce battery current and strain/deterioration, but driving it like an average driver will see notably more rapid degradation.
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