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Old 10-07-2022, 04:03 PM   #26 (permalink)
S Keith
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Originally Posted by broski499 View Post
It seems a local hybrid repair shop has a lithium ion option for second gen prius battery packs. Costs $3000 for battery and installation. Lipo comes with a 5 year warranty or 75,000 miles.

Their standard option is $1038 for a refurbished battery with at least 80% original capacity and a 1 year warranty. A 5 year warranty on the same battery is $2900 so essentially same price as the lipo.

https://acehybridgroup.com/product/2...-prius-hybrid/

A few other local options have packs as low as $600. This would be a refurbished pack made with blades pulled and balanced.

Electron offers the cylindrical battery packs. Anyone every gone this route? Pretty expensive.
https://electronhybridsolution.com/?...vpf-ymm-search

Hybrid2go offers reconditioned packs and a lifetime warranty options - although I've read some not so great reviews on actually making a claim on said warranty. https://hybrid2go.com/product/toyota...ion-2004-2009/ - $1300 for battery, additional $300 for lifetime warranty.
Lithium is likely the NexCell. A very poor implementation by any measure. Will be particularly unfavorable in warm climates.

The cylindrical cells are complete and total garbage. I ran a brand new one for two years, and it performed very poorly. IR values had a huge spread, and it "surged" when under heavy accel. Voltage would oscillate wildly, and it was very evident that the car was varying current in response to the voltage swings. Pulled it and put a frankenpack in it (left over jumble of modules of wildly varying performance characteristics), and it ran WAY better than the cylindrical pack.

Consider what I mentioned above concerning HCH cylindrical cell packs being the worst ever. Now do the following:

1) Change from Sanyo cells to brand-x Chinese
2) Take a marginal cooling system (prius) and completely disable it due to changes induced by the new kit geometry.

How improved over Honda do you expect that will be (negative infinity)?

These "kits" exist because the Hondas are dying out by attrition, and they are looking for places to market their junk.

Any reconditioned option means:
Get a pack.
Have a pack failure every 2 weeks to 2 years.
Get another pack.
Rinse and repeat.

Without question the best consumer VALUE is a new Toyota battery. It's not even close.
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