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Originally Posted by hayden55
Panasonic cells on the Chevy Bolts? If so thats a sweet deal. If they are LG cells though... yikes.
Yeah its weird how that works on local rois. Here electricity for the last 12 months has been 18.2c/kWh every month. Gas has probably averaged $3.15 and right now its $2.89. Also, if you become an overuser they give you an overuse fee on your electricity per kwh over a certain amount lol
Also, regi fee for prius is $50 and the bolt is $250 a year. So it ends up being cheaper to drive a prius. lol
Especially when you factor in they will both need a battery in 12 years (statistics wise). You will have to throw the Bolt away and reuse the old battery as the new battery will probably be 5-10 times the price of the cars value at that time. I'm guessing 20 grand.
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Chevy Bolts use LG cells. It was an LG manufacturing defect that caused the recall and they paid about 95% of the cost of the recall. Customers got a new battery with a new 8 year / 100K mile warranty. Customers with older Bolts like me got a battery that was 10% larger and a bump in range. I wasn't worried about the old pack and I'm not worried about the new one. (There were about 15 Bolt battery fires worldwide)
I do most of my charging at work. For the Spark it was about 90% and with the Bolt it is about 60%. (I charge at home some because a 250 mile range makes it useful for longer trips vs the 80 mile range from the Spark). The more electricity cost the quicker solar pays back. Even at $0.15 / kWh installing solar is cheaper than my current power bill. We just won't be in the house long enough to go through the trouble.
I have no idea where you are getting the idea that either a Prius or a Bolt will need a new battery at 12 years. I would expect 15 to 20 years with a longer life for the Bolt as it is very unlikely to actually fail completely - the range will just get shorter and shorter with time. Even at 1/2 capacity it would still have double the range of the Spark EV I drove 8,500 miles a year. At 12 years old I expect to have 70 - 80% of the original capacity. I don't abuse my battery with a lot of fast charging and deep discharges.
By the time a car is 20 years old it is basically time for a new one. It is a major or a couple minor repairs away from going to the scrapyard. I would love to have an old Bolt battery with 50% capacity for home back-up. That would run my almost all-electric house for a day in the winter and 3 days in the Spring / Fall.