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Old 04-28-2023, 12:50 PM   #111 (permalink)
hayden55
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Originally Posted by Solarpowered View Post
Anyone else think that electric is pretty much the end of the struggle? You can try all you want to get more out of gas, but you'll be light years ahead just buying an electric car. They're not all super expensive, and every year more will appear, driving prices lower.

Seems like the end result for most people on this forum, will be to buy an electric car. And then a solar system to charge it off of. At that point you've reached the goal.
The only issue I see with pure electric cars over HEVs is that the battery will need to be replaced in both. Buying a $2500 battery from Toyota to put in my prius when it goes out in probably 15 years /250k of use isn't bad. But it seems like the EV's get around the same life except an EV with tolerable range will be more like a 50kW battery. Which will be around $15,000 all with diy replacement considered. Considering how little monies you save in a brand new model 3 over a lowly prius, I forsee a lot less used cars being on the road in 20 years.
I'm really not kidding I bet my Prius is worth $4500 and when it needs a battery it will be $2500. I could see a model 3 hitting $5000 when its 2030 at a similar age and the battery being probably $20000+ with the inflation we have caused at this point forward.
I don't see anybody wanting to fix something like that and keep driving it as it becomes economically unfeasible like the majority of Nissan Leafs that got tossed out and recycled.
Gotta remember a lot of us are too poor to care about climate change like the president or any of the leading cause activist who make 6 figures + every year.

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