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Old 06-03-2023, 04:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
new_bug
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Some top contenders so far
~2016 SMAX xc155 yamaha - (no abs) 328lb wet, 14.8hp, 13"/13" front,back wheel dia
~*2018 Kymco Like 150i abs (267dry,~285 wet, guess) 13.8hp 12"/12"
*not necessarily a ~65mph bike, more like a pcx150 in that it might touch 63-65mph & hold 60mph?
~2012 Kymco Yager 200i (no abs)(308dry maybe ~330 wet, guess) 175cc 15.5hp 13"/12"

Overall ABS would be great but not a dealbraker, for example only one of my last ~10 or so 250cc-400cc motorcycles had ABS and I've managed OK. ABS did start showing up in this size range around ~ 2017+ or a little earlier, BUT not all models have it ESPECIALLY 150-200cc.

Sure, if it were $200-$400 extra for ABS - easy choice, I'd pay the extra.
But if the extra cost to track down a USED, otherwise equivalent scooter with ABS is $1000-1500 additional, on a segment of scooters that sold for $3200-$5000 new... not such an easy choice.
So the used market looks like this:
w/ ABS 150-200cc = used asking price ~75% of new price, not many "priced to sell"
non-ABS 150-200cc, fuel injected = used price 50% or below new price, more choices


Overall (USA market) not until new/updated models around 2020+ does ABS seem to be "commonplace".. Most people in the states buy scooters/motorcycles as toys vs the rest of the world where they are utilitarian/commuters. (Americans are not necessarily thinking of riding 'em in the rain, & price point often being a deciding factor).

Fuel injected started showing up around ~2010+ so there are more potential 'good deals' out there that still meet my criteria


The following .....also seem like possible options that could maintain the ~65mph realistic cruising speed that IS a MAIN DECIDING FACTOR for me.......
-SYM hd200/rv200 (carb'd ~169cc?) -not sure but maybe new similar ones are FI
-Other Kymco models? including a 205cc (People GT 200i/similar, new-ish) (heavier)
-Genuine 170i & 220i
-Suzuki Burgman 200 (abs), (heavy @ ~360lbs wet)


Aprilla?, Vespa?, Piaggio?, Lance (Sym)? Others?

Last edited by new_bug; 06-03-2023 at 04:51 PM..
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