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Old 09-28-2023, 04:00 AM   #183 (permalink)
Isaac Zachary
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Avalon - '13 Toyota Avalon HV
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Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
My hunch is that bad transmissions can largely be avoided by getting a hybrid with an eCVT. Anecdotally, I don't know anyone that's had one go bad, and logically, the computer control should be so good that it prevents destructive operating parameters.
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Originally Posted by darcane View Post
How do you define eCVT? Some hybrids use a true CVT and have a mild electric assist. Others, like Toyota's Synergy drive are called a CVT, but really are just a single planetary gearset with two inputs: the electric motor and the gasoline engine. The former still have a high failure rate, the latter are all but indestructible.
The Toyota Synergy Drive is very well designed, practically industructible, unless you factor in the HV battery connected to it that will die in 12 to 15 years, maybe a little longer as the technology has aged (unless you get a gen 3 Prius).

Yes, the HV battery is probably going to die about the time the car would normally be considered trash anyway, but this isn't the kind of car you want if you're aiming to keep it forever as the cost for the battery alone will be a few thousand, depending on the exact model. At least it's predictable, so anyone interested in one can budget that into their vehicle ownership plan.
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