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Originally Posted by redpoint5
It does amaze me that the 2017 CX-5 I'm driving now gets the same fuel economy my 1996 Subaru Legacy was getting. They're both AWD. Don't know why those Mazda's get such poor fuel economy AND are gutless.
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Fun fact:
Back when Mazda canceled the MAZDA6 Wagon in favor replacing it with the CX-5 The 6 Wagon got better fuel mileage, had more power and acceleration, had more passenger room and cargo room, and cost less than the CX-5.
You can't escape the laws of physics. Crossovers are less aerodynamic, and there are consequences as a result.
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Originally Posted by JSH
You are comparing apples to bananas. The Geo Metro was subcompact car with an internal volume of 97 cu ft. The Trax is classified as a station wagon but using sedan classes it would be a large car with the internal volume of 123 cu ft.
The Corolla Hybrid is great if you want a compact sedan but it is almost 20% smaller than a Trax.
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Of course its an apples to bananas comparison. It's an apples to bananas comparison because we're running out of apples (and maybe we've gone bananas
). But you're the one who started it. I had asked what is the new economy car and had mentioned it might be the Chevy Bolt, had it lasted, in reference to a new car that costs the least amount possible to own and operate over the life of said vehicle. But then you came back with the Trax.
We're talking about economy cars here. If the sole purpose of a car is basically to get one's rear end from point A to point B for as little money as possible, what car would that be? Of course a used car would probably fit in there, and here we are talking about new cars. But if someone wants new and cheap-as-possible for commuting, not for hauling a family that probably has a garage they don't use other than for storage of their stuff, what would that be?
The point is that the equivalent of the eco cars of yesteryear are dissapearing, with the excuse that everyone needs more space. Right now the Nissan Versa and Mitsubishi Mirage are close in price and size to what a Geo Metro would be, but actually cost more and get worse fuel mileage. And those cars are dissapearing. What replaces them? That's the question? What replaces the Geo Metro?
In my own circumstances, why should I consider a Trax if I'm doing up to 30,000 miles a year and don't carry hardly anything around in the trunk as is?
All of this makes the Trax irrelevant because while it is a better deal than a 1980's GMC Jimmy, it's not a better deal than a Geo Metro, if all a person wants is a commuter.