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Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
1) What sort of 'lubricants' would they be testing that way?
2) I'm not experiencing that any 'proof' of lubrication germane to automotive engines is in any way being conducted. Sex Toys?
3) I don't argue with opinions.
4) I argue with what I've observed, beginning since my dad overhauled our lawnmower's Briggs & Stratton engine when I was about 5-years old, overhauling go-kart and mini-bile engines in junior high, a Morris Minor 1000, and Rambler American in high school, an engine rebuilding course taught by a Volkswagen Master Mechanic at Lancaster, California's Junior College while in the Air Force, then through college, building Volkswagen engines, and reading papers on tribology in the SAE Journals and Transactions in the Texas Tech University Library, then SAE Journals and Transactions at the Dallas Public Library, written by the career tribologists involved in automotive engine design, around the world.
5) Do you have a source of tribological bona fides that exceeds the level of expertise represented by members of the Society of Automotive Engineers? I'm all ears!
https://www.tribonet.org/wiki/pin-on-disk-test/

5:
No I don't.
Who finances said Society?
Is it likely to be car manufactures that profit from the sale of engines, gearboxes, drivetrains etc?
All the tings you'd want to wear out so you can sell more?

While the research and the how it works is available for all to research; what holds you back from doing so?
I don't see one reference to scientific research on this subject from you.
Not one in all your posts here, while I have many.
Why??
Why not back up your arguments with SCIENCE if you "don't argue opinions"???

That would beat contradicting yourself!

Perhaps the the other personal experiences I have been trying to avoid in favour of the science actually hold more weight to you?
Here are 29 pages of positive forum posts by people... shall we say; more open minded than those on this forum who have added Boric Oxide to their engines:
https://www.team-bhp.com/forum/techn...ngine-oil.html

Your Boric Oxide - Boric Acid question:
Boric Oxide is a very hygroscopic substance.
See "Stability" here:
https://www.borax.com/BoraxCorp/medi...e.pdf?ext=.pdf
So when Boric Oxide is exposed to the atmosphere a lot of it turns into Boric Acid.

B2O3 + 3H2O → 2H3BO3

Because of this the 2 terms are often used interchangeably throughout the literature on Boric Oxide/Acid.
But as I researched this, I know its the Acid.

You will note that in the Team BHP forums everyone was adding Boric Oxide powder, without water, to engines etc.
They saw results after a long time, not within 10 KM as I did with (hot: more suluble) water also added.

The reason for this is simple:
I did the research and therefor knew that it was in fact the Acid and not the Oxide that is the lubricant, while they were lucky that there is in fact the argued water in engine oil for the oxide to react with to form the desired acid/lubricant.


It seems the issue here is that you put no weight in my research ability.
That's perfectly understandable given that you don't know me and only 1 in 20 people have an IQ of over 120 and less than that do any research.

But that will change. Slowly. Grudgingly.
But, if you read my links, it will change.
That there is the only reason I bother to take the time to argue/debate with you.


(NB that I am aware of the tactic of goading people into saying something bannable on forums as a means of getting rid of them for whatever personal reasons.
That's no way win a debate... )
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