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redpoint5
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Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
Bucky' wealth was in doing ever more with ever less. He called it ephemeralization.
Yeah but, most people call that efficiency.

When energy is relatively cheap, the impetus to conserve it is not there. One source says we spend 10 units of energy to produce 1 unit of food energy. In other words, an extremely low EROI of 0.1

I expect energy to become cheaper over time due to innovation, so I also expect the poor EROI to continue.

Jevons Paradox. Once we figure out how to be extremely efficient with some resource, we'll figure out new ways to spend that resource so that overall consumption remains high.
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