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CO2 emissions are a function of wealth, and as far as I know, there isn't a difference in the wealth of Red vs Blue teams. Wealth is a function of free markets (capitalism) with rule enforcement and high trust. Wealthy economies spend fossil fuels to achieve their standard of living.

There is no difference between economic well-being and fossil fuel consumption, and there are zero examples of countries that have decoupled that relationship.

I expect that relationship to decouple at some future date, but this isn't the future.
The closest one to even start is France with all their nuclear power plants.
Germany tried to do it without nuclear and has appeared to lower their standards of living, even going back to burning brown coal, ect.

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Old Yesterday, 04:51 PM   #1752 (permalink)
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There is no difference between economic well-being and fossil fuel consumption... I expect that relationship to decouple at some future date, but this isn't the future.
Wrong from one end to the other. Since 1981 [Critical Path]:
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The purpose of our lives is to add value to the people of this generation and those that follow. Nature is a totally efficient, self-regenerating system. If we discover the laws that govern this system and live synergistically within them, sustainability will follow and humankind will be a success. Wealth is a measure of a person’s ability to survive so many days forward. Wealth is the product of energy times intelligence: energy turned into artifacts that advantage human life.
Consumption times intelligence.

I highly recommend everyone read and take to heart the entire article:
excellencereporter.com/2020/01/20/r-buckminster-fuller-on-the-wisdom-and-the-purpose-of-life/
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Never forget that you are one of a kind. Never forget that if there weren’t any need for you in all your uniqueness to be on this earth, you wouldn’t be here in the first place. And never forget, no matter how overwhelming life’s challenges and problems seem to be, that one person can make a difference in the world. In fact, it is always because of one person that all the changes that matter in the world come about. So be that one person.

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