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Originally Posted by aerohead
I recommend that you go back over what you've posted, re-read what Dr. Ali Erdemir actually 'said' about 'boron, what I've posted, and then think about the perception of factual inadequacies others might experience while comparing your 'experience' with reality, then see if you might want to look for 'holes' in your arguments that you might have missed, which make it very difficult for us to navigate.
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As to 'light load', I never insisted on that.
Here in the United States, fuel economy of all vehicles certified for sale, are computed from the results of five ( 5 ) different EPA test protocols, not any 'single' test.
No single EcoModder road test that any of us can perform can satisfy the scientific vigor of four (4) internationally recognized automotive test protocols, each of which produces a different 'mpg' for an identical car ( EPA, NEDC, WLTP, CLTC ).
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You can recommend whatever you please.
Fact is; I tested in engines: It works. (For years so far)
You haven't.
That there is how we can fully test it. (But you want to argue that logic..!?
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That's how:
- I
- and others
- and research labs tested it.
Thus it is as fully tested as it's going to get. (so far)
Now what was your excuse as to why someone shouldn't put it in an old smokey lawnmower they are about to toss out anyway.
Was it fire and brimstone from above?
Or was it fire and brimstone from above you, if you ever admitted to the logic of doing so..?
I don't recall.
Now your beloved flat bottoms and boat tails:
If properly designed and built, and tested at constant speed on the freeway:
Can one feel that the accelerator pedal isn't depressed as much as usual?
That the vehicle seems to 'roll on' for further?
That it's using less fuel, when you fill up?
Or do you need the amount of scientific research I have quoted here ( and you've rejected) to prove their (highway only) benefit?
Similarly;
Boric Acid works so well that you can feel it in the same way as anyone can feel the difference a properly done turbocharger install has on power.
(Also, as 98% of driving is urban stop-n-go, why aren't you insisting on such testing for aero mods too? You do want this community to save fuel don't you..?)
As I recall you were all: " Who is this Dr Erdemir Snake oil salesman!?"
And you were calling the research done by the DOE's Argonne National Labs etc a whole lot of BS poppycock etc by 'Fly by Nighters'.
Now you've hopped the fence and despite it having being tested in lab engines to great effect, actually want more of all that kind of testing..!?
Do make up your mind!
Oh and again:
10 out of 10 on skipping over the challenge of stating how and why each of the certifications you insist on are done.
- Perhaps YOU don't know and just want others to think you do..?
- Or perhaps the testing entails the equipment and procedures you have already rejected here..?
Anyone want to guess at which points/questions will be ignored yet again here.
I'm guessing all of them. You? 
Any excuse as to why one shouldn't try BA in the above, pre toss or rebuild situation, looks like the work of a paid troll, it smells like paid troll..! And not just to me...
Skipping inconvenient questions doesn't help either.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, what is it..?