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Originally Posted by MazdaMatt
Apples and oranges, my friend. A similar SMALL CAR to the prius fully loaded is under 20k.
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Only because you get to define what makes them similar :-) Putting aside claims about the Prius being a small car (not by MY standards, it isn't), you can easily find cars - Lexus, BMW 6-series, etc - that are of similar size & seating, yet go for twice the price. So what makes THEM not similar to a Prius, other than intentional "they can't be similar 'cause it would ruin my argument" cherry-picking?
"Dollar for dollar you get WAY more car for the price of a pruis if you're shopping non-hybrid. Also, the gas-money break-even on a car similar to the pruis is VERY long term. Therefore, the only reason to buy one is that you're a hippie."
Again, what's more? Maybe this makes me a "hippie" by your definition, but with cars I go with the "less is more" philosophy. Though more accurately it's the Colin Chapman/Lotus philosophy, and there's a great example of a car that's a lot smaller than a Prius, but will cost you twice as much.
Then there's the whole "gas-money break-even" fallacy. It's like asking the guy who buys a Lotus when he expects to break even on time saved in his daily commute: it only demonstrates that you just don't understand at all.
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btw, I love the term "big hat, no cattle".
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Not original with me, of course :-)