1966 Hybrid Mustang - 65% increase in MPG's!

[MetroMPG]

ncwa: any chance you could post a thread with a description & some photos of what you've created, how you operate it, etc?

I realize you have a web site, but it's questionable etiquette at best (spam at worst) to join the forum to discuss your vehicle, and not have any information posted here about the project, other than a link.

Hope you don't mind the request. I'd love to read details of your Mustang on this site.

[ncwa]

Originally Posted by MetroMPG

it's questionable etiquette at best (spam at worst) to join the forum to discuss your vehicle, and not have any information posted here about the project, other than a link.

Maybe it is just me but that seems a bit harsh. I can get a lot more info into a website than I can a post. Please also note that I posted this one under "success story" not "DIY".

This thread has definitely been met with some negativity. I'll stop posting until I can find these etiquette rules that I seem to be missing. My mistake I guess.

[MetroMPG]

I'm sorry you interpreted my request as negativity.

Unfortunately, there's a history of people whose only purpose in using this (and other) forums is to promote their own web sites, rather than to share information.

I'm sure you're not one of them.

I can tell you if your goal is to share information, you'll get a lot more interest in your project if you post a summary here.

[skyking]

another 66 mustang owner. I had the 200 and the rotten 3 speed on the floor. I got a maverick bellhousing and a toploader 4 speed out of a V-8, swapped the rear end for 2.80 auto gears. While it lasted it got great mileage on the freeway, right around 30 at 65~70 MPH. It was another one of those low rider mustangs. It had the worn out rear springs so I lowered the front to match
Then I got the bright idea of putting in a V-8 to match my transmission, and all thoughts of mileage went out the window.

[ncwa]

I finally made a quick video of the hybrid. This should give some info as to what I did. I might start tearing into again and I will try to post images or videos of the work.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWXwA5wI2K0

[Joe Dirt]

just figured id add to this some as stated before these ol motors get some poor milage and i think the old log intake on these motors is the major killer i do believe.

my current 73 4 door maverick has a 250 inline in it and c4 auto 2.79 gears
stock it averaged 15-17mpg
I put some tall tires and got 10 mpg :0
added a header,tuneup,msd ignition,wideband tuned carter yf carb and a 2" free flowing exhaust,electric fan,and a electric fuel pump ,and a early timing chain
I now average 22.5 city and 26.5 freeway on 87 octane E10

(just changing the tires to a shorter set took me from 10 to 17mpg) LOL

[skyking]

thank you for the update vid. That clears things up for a lot of folks I am sure.

[Rusty Marina]

Originally Posted by ncwa

Thanks for the comments – good and questionable! I don’t mind Frank’s questions at all as there is a lot to consider. Questions/concerns help me think through all the design challenges!

To clarify to a couple of items:

1)This is real and it does run! (There is poor quality youtube video out there where you can hear the electric motor under the tuned exhaust.) The web site example is not directly for this build.

2)Frank quoted a city mpg of 17 for another Mustang. That is the same baseline number I gave. My numbers are, for the most part city but some highway. I should have qualified that this was mostly city driving. Here is another number I didn’t post: After multiple charges and running around the city with many wide open throttle stop light starts (it is hard to hold back the extra torque!) my city mpg’s were 22.

3)The batteries are charged at idle and during engine braking, but most importantly, the batteries are charged by plugging in the car – it is a plug in hybrid.

4)The original Ford 200 engines were not the most efficient engines and mine likely hasn’t been rebuilt correctly in a very very long time. A rebuilt 200, with some of the performance modifications that make it more efficient, can achieve up to 28 mpg’s. I am just not there yet.

If I can get to 30, I’ll be very excited. But for now I will take my 20’s!

No, the biggest drawback to those is the manifolding which does not come off and carb setup. The Australian versions did, maybe that would help.

[Beau]

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