Can someone build a 2-car garage in 5 days for $3,000?

[Xist]

You know how it is, I see some claim that sounds questionable, and I share it because it turns out to be horribly inaccurate.

Thus in accordance with BetterHelp's Law.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFb9MTvKm9Y

The comments were full of criticisms, including many things that I noticed:

1. He didn't put gravel under his cinder blocks.
2. His cinder blocks are sideways.
3. He didn't attach his shed to his "Foundation."
4. People felt that 24" on-center studs were too far apart.
5. He didn't use pressure-treated bottom plates.
6. He had his metal siding go below the ground level to prevent drafts, which wouldn't be an issue if he poured a foundation.
7. It doesn't have ventilation.
8. People thought the screws and metal would rust(?)
9. The lack of gutters could cause problems.
10. His video may have been too repetitive.
11. He said "Guys" 282 times and "Pretty straightforward" 24 times (I had my PC count).
12. I thought that if he was going through all of this effort, he should have made something taller, with a greater incline. In a follow-up video, he mentioned storing stuff in the rafters, but there just wasn't much space, but the reason that I bring this to your attentions are the title
13. He claimed it cost $3,000, but mentioned spending $2,600 on siding\roofing, plus 2 boxes of screws, hinges, window trim, and something like 150 boards.

It is 20x20, so 6 2x4x10' boards for the bottom plates, he has 11 2x4s per 3 sides, 8 in the front, 6 more 10' 2x4s for blocking, 2 over the doors, an additional 8 for the top plates, 3 4x4s, 2 2x10x10' for the roof ridge, 4 2x6x10s for the sides of the roof, 5 2x4x8s screwed to each side of the bottom half of each ridge board, 22 2x6x12s for the rafters, 16 2x4x10s for the roof, 15 2x4x8s to the studs in each corner and middle, as well as next to each side of each door, for attaching the siding, 8 more for the doors, 8 2x4x16s for the lower part of the rafters, 8 2x4x10s where the rafters meet the walls to spread the snow load, and 6 1x3s to create door jambs.
He used at least 10 pieces of flashing, which he said was $10 each, the 2 pieces of drip edge were $12 each, 2 pieces of "super cheap" j-channel, 4 corner vinyl trim pieces, 12 hinges and 8 slide bolts (4 into the jamb and 4 into the ground).

2x4x10s (36 boards)
2x4x8 (84 boards)
4x4 (3 posts)
2x10x10 (2 boards)
2x6x10 (4 boards)
2x6x12 (22 boards)
2x4x16) (8 boards)
1x3s (6 boards)
Americana Metal Siding/Roofing
Screws (2 Boxes):
Hinges (12)
Slide Bolts (8):
Flashing (10 Pieces)
Drip Edge (2 Pieces)
J-Channel (2 Pieces)
Corner Vinyl Trim (4 Pieces)
Window Trim:
Concrete Blocks:
By my estimate, that is around $4,000, which is much better than I expected, but not $3,000.

[Xist]

This guy built a garage for $5,000 by adding a front and a back to a carport.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GctYnJ2BtSo

The doors in the picture look nice and expensive, compared to the other guy's shed doors.
It also appears that he did things right, including concrete footings, although he left the rest dirt.
He built the short walls and the floor for 67% more than what the other guy paid for four walls, a roof, and the floor?
Of course, that floor was just grass.
He said that he got concrete pavers off Facebook for free.
In order to keep the wind from causing problems, he screwed 2x4s across the corners, and piled cinder blocks on them.
The other video that I saw had him digging holes near the corners and finally burying a 4x4 in concrete, which he should have done in the first place.

This guy didn't set up a 400-square-foot building for a few thousand dollars, he set up a 2,100-square-foot building for $3,250, pouring footings every 9' for the steel double-truss steel frame, and a gravel floor, but it is like a better version of my disposable garage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tApsUg3uTIw

I don't know how that failed first, whether the canvas failed or the frame, but in the end, both disintegrated, but hopefully he doesn't have that problem with double trusses and the canvas holds up better.

He said that he will put permanent siding on it in a year or two, which I had considered for mine, but since it had slanted walls, I visualized MDF I-beams around the metal frame so I would have lots of space for insulation.

Effectively, I would build a new garage over the disposable one, but I got into grad school, and it fell apart.

This guy said that he built a pole barn for $10,000. Menards has what they call a kit, but it is basically a parts list, and you figure out the design yourself.
He said that he sunk the pressure-treated 4x4s 5 feet deep, but the floor is dirt, and he chose a row of greenhouse siding at the top instead of conventional windows to make everything cheaper and easier:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF-MCqtnxzc

These guys said they built their 3-car garage for $3,000 6 years ago. They have a gravel floor and it looks like they have 6x6 posts in concrete footings, but the ceiling in the back only looks about 5.5' high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HSorCYZUwQ

Why am I watching people building garages?! I don't have the time, money, or space to build anything, let alone watch irrelevant videos!

[freebeard]

Heh, I can build garages with my inner voice and not have to watch other peoples choices.



I used this detail on a big (Cars, boat, motorhome) garage in the 1980s for a retired Colonel in Cedar Hills, OR.

That takes care of a foundation ring and stem wall. Rammed Earth better than gravel for a floor? Cheaper but more labor intensive. For the roof? Fuller's Plydome.


Plydome Patent (1959) - Spherical Atlas Self-Strutted Geodesic R. BUCKMINSTER FULLER

4x8 sheets of whatever is free on Faecebook, Freeverse, Craigslist or the roadside. Drop City all over again.

architecturefoundation.org.uk/programme/2009/architecture-on-film/drop-city

[Piotrsko]

Only issue with wood to dirt interface is dry rot, even on pressure treated. Keep it dry, lasts 3 times as long. I paint thinned roofing tar on all my earth contact wood on the contact areas. Will advise anticipated life when it fails in another 10or so years, if I last that long.

3 large nowadays just gets you a thousand board ft of lumber, if that much, on sale, grade #3 or 4

[freebeard]

That detail was actually suggested by the plans inspector when I submitted the proposal to the City. ??

IIRC pressure-treated 4x4s, with a flat rock in the bottom of the hole.

[redpoint5]

I will never be placing wood in the ground again in the PNW. I'll be replacing 175' of fence in the back yard and using galvanized steel posts. Haven't decided if I'll pull existing concrete posts out and reuse the holes with concrete, or pound the posts in new post locations. Wouldn't surprise me if the materials cost for a stinkin fence is $3k.

[freebeard]

Hempcrete posts? In Saigon the French used concrete and strap iron telephone poles and the Americans used wood. Wonder which are left today.



DDG can't find a picture of one but there exists a 'pinecone plydome'. You'll notice there is an edge up orientation in the 1959 patent drawing. This creates a ridgeline of sorts. Then the [two] five-way vertexes that were pinwheeling can be shingle-lapped instead. Re-lap everything and it's all downhill from there. Widen each piece to minimize the gap and extend the downhill edge to overlap the lapped edges lower down.

The result is a shingled hemisphere with no struts, just 2x the sheeting.

[redpoint5]

Teeing freebeard up to talk about domes...

How much to fix this place up? We stayed with our friends in Missouri just last month, and on Friday it gave way to a tornado and an oak tree.





Tree is sitting in the children's bedroom. Next window over is where we stayed.


The tree landed on Justin's lap, but he suffered only scrapes and bruises.

...and today I was at the building materials store stressing about replacing the rotten stairs I tore off the deck.

[freebeard]

Teeing freebeard up to talk about domes...

How much to fix this place up?

An open-ended question. Thank you.

Where to even start? Anywhere from free materials and voluteer labor to the Geoship.

https://external-content.duckduckgo....38b&ipo=images


https://external-content.duckduckgo....a70&ipo=images

What is the state and construction of that first floor? How do you define 'dome'? What timeline and budget?

[redpoint5]

The first floor is a walkout basement, so it mostly survived, save for the oak tree that collapsed through the 2nd story. These are the only images I've seen yet. Might lend a hand in the cleanup if that's useful to them in the coming weeks. Any excuse to get my saw out and yard branches around.