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Old 10-29-2019, 08:57 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Overall I think there is a consensus of concentrating efforts on the tail, not the nose.

Causes of aerodynamic drag
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Pressure drag is caused by the air particles being more compressed (pushed together) on the front-facing surfaces and more spaced out on the back surfaces. This is caused when the layers of air separate away from the surface and begin to swirl – this is called turbulent flow. Note how the wing shape reduces this.
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Ovoid forms aren't pertinent to the rectilinear construction. Follow Mair or Ahmed


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Typical trailer aero considerations would be having a radius at the leading edges of the box, not sharp corners. A V nose may reduce the need for this, but I would be inclined to curve the front edges to some extent.

I would recommend you create a rear door that was a several feet deep boat tail, hinged to one side. That gives you the taper, but the door opening would still be 100% of the width, as only the section past the door opening would be tapered. Think of the typical trailer tail, except as an enclosed door. Then either continue to use the ramps that you would use now, or build/buy removable ramps.
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I couldn't find it, but in this site (else my imagination) there was a post about a full height box trailer with a clamshell boat tail.
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I couldn't find it, but in this site (else my imagination) there was a post about a full height box trailer with a clamshell boat tail.
The one I'm thinking of was an RV way back in 2011.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...d-e-18151.html


Not a tractor trailer style baffle box cavity, but similar results I assume.

First found it here while doing a search:
https://www.buildagreenrv.com/new-ideas/
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Ovoid forms aren't pertinent to the rectilinear construction. Follow Mair or Ahmed

ecomodder.com/forum/.../random-aerodynamic-oddity-day-thread...#post610679
Yea, I posted several images in that other thread with this thread in mind. Wasn't quite sure how to introduce or implement it here without scaring people off.

Too much information and all that.
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Typical trailer aero considerations would be ...........
Good post.
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I couldn't find it, but in this site (else my imagination) there was a post about a full height box trailer with a clamshell boat tail.

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post436708

Photobucket has eaten the images a bit. But I think this would be the trailer you were thinking of. I never heard any more about it at the website I saw it at. Maybe I'll ask there. Ought to either have a few miles, or a lot dust on it, by now.
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Thanks. That's the one. Photobucketsucks.

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