Tesla Megapack peaking plants up to 730-MWh

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Logic

No they aren't and perhaps this guy is just a very good BSer.

The Terraformer is designed to integrate directly with a standard 1 MW solar array. No grid connection, no interconnection queue. The Terraformer gets solar energy to market as energy dense, clean, cheap, carbon neutral synthetic natural gas.

The Terraformer produces 1000 cubic feet of natural gas per hour of operation. It is optimized for 25% utilization, typical for utility scale solar arrays, and in this configuration produces 6000 cubic feet/day.

Operating the equivalent of 2190 hours per year, one Terraformer produces over 2 million cubic feet of natural gas. At $10/Mcf sale price and $54/Mcf for IRA PTCs (45V, 45Q, 45E) each unit produces up to $150,000 of annual revenue.

A gigawatt-scale solar array integrated with 1000 Terraformers will produce enough natural gas to supply 20,000 homes.

A self-funding global fleet of 400 million Terraformers, rolled out over the next two decades, will provide all of humanity with permanent unconditional energy abundance for the first time in history, completing the mission of the industrial revolution.

https://terraformindustries.wordpres...rmer-mark-one/

More (to ignore ):
https://terraformindustries.wordpress.com/home/

Where is it then?

Good ideas cannot be withheld forever. If Einstein had been killed, we'd still have his understanding of things because the time was right for those discoveries.

It's possible this company holds game changing technology, but it's not probable. I'm filing this away with all the other game changing battery breakthroughs that nobody has any products on the market for.

[freebeard]

Good ideas cannot be withheld forever. If Einstein had been killed, we'd still have his understanding of things because the time was right for those discoveries.

The opposite also holds true. See Antiquitech:

weewarrior.wordpress.com
Atmospheric Etheric Energy (AEE) Antiqui-Tech of the Tartars?
Keep in mind we are not talking about the conventional modern version of wired electricity used to run typical labor saving devices. The concept of Antiqui-Tech is the crafting of architectural forms to attract and distribute the natural static electrical charge present in the atmosphere or Atmospheric Etheric...

tartariabritannica.com/blog/antiquitech-study-what-is-antiquitech/

[Logic]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Where is it then?

Good ideas cannot be withheld forever. If Einstein had been killed, we'd still have his understanding of things because the time was right for those discoveries.

It's possible this company holds game changing technology, but it's not probable. I'm filing this away with all the other game changing battery breakthroughs that nobody has any products on the market for.

I think the tech that gets adopted or makes it, or NOT, has a LOT to do with what tech is whiteballed by...er... 'The Money'.
If there's something that cuts for eg. oil demand too much; 'The Money' will blackball it and it simply never sees the light of day.
(There's some evidence of that even here!
More proof:
Share something against 'The Narrative' on FarceBook, then phone everyone and ask them if it ever even showed up. Only your cookey conspiracy theorist friend might actually get the post)

The fantasy that 'The Money' has the best interests and the betterment of humanity at heart is just that: A mass fantasy held be the majority of humanity.
"Bad people simply can't be in charge! ...Except maybe the devil..!??"
and: "Don't we just hate politicians!" (puppets paid as expert BS'ers)

(philosophical) In this case; I think it's very likely a blackball:
If you show these graphs to stock broker; he would say 'Sell!' except for the CO2 line.
ie:
The pattern of 100 000 years of Ice Age, followed by 30 000 years of 'Sunshine Reggae' is plain... except... CO2 is now leading the temperature line...

https://euanmearns.com/the-vostok-ic...e-co2-and-ch4/

So... do 'we' in fact WANT to decrease CO2..? Or are we obliviously paying 'The Money' for another day in the sun..???

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by Logic

I think the tech that gets adopted or makes it, or NOT, has a LOT to do with what tech is whiteballed by...

Big Bad Oil didn't magically appear out of thin air. It was little oil to start with, and the usefulness (in economics they call it demand) was so great that it grew (economics calls it supply increase) to become Big Oil

There was no amount of Big Whale Oil money that could have permanently kept the fossil fuel industry from occurring.

The fantasy that 'The Money' has the best interests and the betterment of humanity at heart is just that: A mass fantasy held be the majority of humanity...

Hardly anyone believes the pursuit of money is motivated by goodwill towards humanity, which is why economic systems that leverage self-interest are necessary, because any system that assumes people are angels that just don't know it yet will descend into the most depraved and murderous society on earth.

"Bad people simply can't be in charge! ...Except maybe the devil..!??"
and: "Don't we just hate politicians!" (puppets paid as expert BS'ers)

Only bad people exist. The way to isolate the reach of our bad nature is to distribute authority out to the smallest organizational units that can handle the issue. It's what US Federalism was supposed to be, and it follows from the principle of subsidiarity.

So... do 'we' in fact WANT to decrease CO2..? Or are we obliviously paying 'The Money' for another day in the sun..???

We're not supposed to discuss the GW subject here, but I'll say that personally I'd like to see CO2 concentration slowly rise and level off at around 700 ppm. We're at 400, so we've got a ways to go.

Nobody is willing to go back to living in teepees and scalping foreign tribes to achieve a low level of human caused CO2 production, so the experiment of chasing the least costly energy will be played on a global scale. We're all along for the ride.

[freebeard]

Only bad people exist.

That's only half the story.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by freebeard

That's only half the story.

Yes, and we're disposed to linger on negative things.

For example, we might be producing a certain chemical at a rate that poses adaptation challenges, and yet we mightily benefit despite the lingering byproducts. Our attention is centered on what is suboptimal and completely ignores the great good in the process.

[freebeard]

...the great[er] good in the process.

The greater good is a hypothetical construct. There is a finite number of 'goods', each with it's pluses and minuses, and sorting for the one optimal outcome is paralyzing. What the U.S.Army tells it's 2nd Lieutenants is "Do something, even if it's wrong."

Your example might be overtapping the deep, hot abiotic oil sources; leading to a temporary peak in oil producttion.

The other half of the story is:

Goodreads
URL="https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/450864-the-line-separating-good-and-evil-passes-not-through-states"]Quote by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: "The line separating good and evil ...[/URL]
"The line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either -- but right through every human heart -- and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small

[Logic]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Big Bad Oil didn't magically appear out of thin air. It was little oil to start with, and the usefulness (in economics they call it demand) was so great that it grew (economics calls it supply increase) to become Big Oil

There was no amount of Big Whale Oil money that could have permanently kept the fossil fuel industry from occurring.



Hardly anyone believes the pursuit of money is motivated by goodwill towards humanity, which is why economic systems that leverage self-interest are necessary, because any system that assumes people are angels that just don't know it yet will descend into the most depraved and murderous society on earth.



Only bad people exist. The way to isolate the reach of our bad nature is to distribute authority out to the smallest organizational units that can handle the issue. It's what US Federalism was supposed to be, and it follows from the principle of subsidiarity.



We're not supposed to discuss the GW subject here, but I'll say that personally I'd like to see CO2 concentration slowly rise and level off at around 700 ppm. We're at 400, so we've got a ways to go.

Nobody is willing to go back to living in teepees and scalping foreign tribes to achieve a low level of human caused CO2 production, so the experiment of chasing the least costly energy will be played on a global scale. We're all along for the ride.

Er... the graph:
5 periods of ~30 000 years of warm temperate weather, followed by 100 000 years of ice age.
Graph says our 30 000 years are basically up.

The only difference between the current peak and the historical data is that the CO2 levels are higher this time, leading and diverging from the temperature line.

That's the point I was trying to make...

[freebeard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

Nobody is willing to go back to living in teepees...

Why not? The teepee is aerodynamically sophisticated compared to the nylon and fiberglass rod tents that the [growing hordes of] homeless seem to prefer.

Plus: Headroom.

[Logic]

Originally Posted by freebeard

The greater good is a hypothetical construct. There is a finite number of 'goods', each with it's pluses and minuses, and sorting for the one optimal outcome is paralyzing. What the U.S.Army tells it's 2nd Lieutenants is "Do something, even if it's wrong."

Your example might be overtapping the deep, hot abiotic oil sources; leading to a temporary peak in oil producttion.

The other half of the story is:

Over-complicated in this case.

eg:
You sell a million bottles of anti dandruff shampoo per month to regular customers and make 1 dollar per bottle = $ 1 000 000 per month.

Someone comes along and says: "Add this stuff and dandruff will be permanently cured!"

Adding the stuff ends your $ 1 000 000 per month income.

How do you/anyone react..???


There are those who think everyone will make the good decision.
The right decision for the betterment of humanity.
noT!!!

eg: Nikola Tesla:
He told his sponsor; JP Morgan who made/was making his fortune selling copper wire and electricity: "Free wireless power!" (can't charge/cut off. No copper reqd))
Next day his lab was at the scrapyard.
He was out on his arse from where he lived.
Everything he'd ever written down had er... disappeared.

Same thing will happen to the 'new dandruff cure' salesman every? time..?

Ironically Mr Dandruff Shampoo may well donate money to some medical research center a week later sure, but that's beyond the point here.