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Xist · 03-23-2020, 10:02 PM

What do we do now? Quarantine everyone not absolutely necessary?

Test everyone?

JSH · 03-23-2020, 10:15 PM

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What do we do now? Quarantine everyone not absolutely necessary?

Yes. The longer we wait the worse it will be.

redpoint5 · 03-23-2020, 11:09 PM

Quarantine is a mitigation strategy, not a long term solution. There's no chance people can or will subject themselves to this for a year or more.

JSH · 03-23-2020, 11:14 PM

Yes, it is a mitigation strategy to slow the pace of infections so we don’t overwhelm our health system and to buy us time to get ready. We should expect several waves of this.

serialk11r · 03-24-2020, 03:09 AM

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Quarantine is a mitigation strategy, not a long term solution. There's no chance people can or will subject themselves to this for a year or more.

If the virus doesn't mutate quickly enough and can't reinfect people and can't lay dormant, quarantine will burn the disease out without herd immunity or vaccine. Unfortunately, there are indications this isn't the case.

Xist · 03-24-2020, 04:32 AM

What do we know about it? Turnip kept saying that it would die off over the summer, which has been known to happen, but Arizona is pretty warm, and we have hundreds of cases!

There is also the entire hemisphere and all of the cases there...

If it did go dormant, even a little, wouldn't it just return in the fall?

serialk11r · 03-24-2020, 05:06 AM

It's stuff like this that is really scary: https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...he-coronavirus

On the other hand, SARS did fizzle out after a minor resurgence in 2004.

It's kind of hard to tell right now.

JSH · 03-24-2020, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Xist

What do we know about it? Turnip kept saying that it would die off over the summer, which has been known to happen, but Arizona is pretty warm, and we have hundreds of cases!

There is also the entire hemisphere and all of the cases there...

If it did go dormant, even a little, wouldn't it just return in the fall?

Have you watched one of his daily press conferences? Trump starts out by bragging how great he, how he immediately took action and how everything is under control. Then the rest of the crew correct his misinformation. Nobody should be listening to what Trump says. Yesterday he said more people will die from a quarantine than from the virus.

The only people I listen to on that stage are and Dr. Fauci and Dr. Adams.

redneck · 03-24-2020, 10:43 AM

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Yesterday he said more people will die from a quarantine than from the virus.

That is more than likely a correct statement.

People are being told their doctor, treatment and test appointments are being cancelled . Plus they are afraid of going to a hospital because they perceive that they may be going to virus rich environment.

Not mention that some cities are on lock down making travel difficult to and from health care.

The media exacerbates the problem.

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redpoint5 · 03-24-2020, 11:16 AM

What is a scary thought is that the best course of action for the people may not be the politically best course of action. Death from from the WuFlu is high profile, yet death from all other causes, perhaps exacerbated by not getting the same level of healthcare as normal, such as cancer detection and treatment or heart conditions, may increase.

It's entirely possible a directive would be given that will decrease the high profile deaths but increase everything else.

I'm not saying the measures being taken now are inappropriate, only that it's possible they are suboptimally timed, or suboptimally implemented to achieve political ends. I don't think most politicians would be entirely caulous in this regard, but there's even self-interest at play on a subconscious level that causes us to behave differently than if we were being completely objective.