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Old 03-24-2020, 12:52 PM   #31 (permalink)
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That is more than likely a correct statement.

People are being told their doctor, treatment and test appointments are being cancelled . Plus they are afraid of going to a hospital because they perceive that they may be going to virus rich environment.

Not mention that some cities are on lock down making travel difficult to and from health care.
He specifically said more people would commit suicide due to lock downs that would die from the virus if we lift them.

“People get tremendous anxiety and depression and you have suicide over things like this, when you have a terrible economy, you have death, definitely … in far greater numbers than we’re talking about with regard to the virus.”

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The media exacerbates the problem.
I completely agree. My father and father-in-law have taken to listening to conservative talk radio since they retired. Everyday they are hearing this isn't a real threat but is really just a conspiracy to take down Trump.

They are not taking this seriously and are still continuing their daily life as normal. My in-laws went shopping yesterday to multiple stores, then visited 3 homes of friends and relatives. They didn't need to go shopping, they just wanted to get out.

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Old 03-24-2020, 01:07 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Apparently Trump has time to promote books on Twitter in the middle of a national health and economic crisis.

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I'm sure it took Trump 5 seconds to Tweet that. Probably the least offensive Tweet I've heard coming from Trump, though I don't follow him or anyone for that matter.

I'm not depending on Trump to take care of me. That's what local government is for.
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Old 03-24-2020, 02:09 PM   #34 (permalink)
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He specifically said more people would commit suicide due to lock downs that would die from the virus if we lift them.

“People get tremendous anxiety and depression and you have suicide over things like this, when you have a terrible economy, you have death, definitely ...in far greater numbers than we’re talking about with regard to the virus.”



I completely agree. My father and father-in-law have taken to listening to conservative talk radio since they retired. Everyday they are hearing this isn't a real threat but is really just a conspiracy to take down Trump.

They are not taking this seriously and are still continuing their daily life as normal. My in-laws went shopping yesterday to multiple stores, then visited 3 homes of friends and relatives. They didn't need to go shopping, they just wanted to get out.

Again...

That is more than likely a correct statement.


Stock market crash 1929 and following depression.

https://www.history.com/news/stock-market-crash-suicides-wall-street-1929-great-depression

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Behind 1929’s building-jumping myth, however, may be the larger truth that the onset of the Great Depression did correlate to an increase in suicides. Based on statistics reported by Galbraith in The Great Crash 1929, the suicide rate in the United States increased from 17.0 per 100,000 people in 1929 to 21.3 in 1932 during the worst of the financial calamity. The pattern was much the same in New York.

Suicide Statistics

https://afsp.org/about-suicide/suicide-statistics/

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Suicide is the 10th leading cause of death in the US.

In 2018, 48,344 Americans died by suicide

In 2018, there were an estimated 1,400,000 suicide attempts
Time will tell since we don’t know the final numbers.

But history say’s it will go up.


As far as your father and father in-law.

To quote Churchill:

A young man who is not a liberal has no heart; an old man who is not a conservative has no brain.

Sounds to me like their cognitive skills are just fine...




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The media exacerbates the problem.
Which media outlets called it a hoax? They all hype, but the biggest media problem was denial.
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He specifically said more people would commit suicide due to lock downs that would die from the virus if we lift them.

“People get tremendous anxiety and depression and you have suicide over things like this, when you have a terrible economy, you have death, definitely … in far greater numbers than we’re talking about with regard to the virus.”
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The media exacerbates the problem.
I completely agree. My father and father-in-law have taken to listening to conservative talk radio since they retired. Everyday they are hearing this isn't a real threat but is really just a conspiracy to take down Trump.
Why not both? Or is the virus to clear the street and cover for World leaders disappearing?

This is the media who hold our President responsible for people self-medicating with aquarium chemicals?
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Say what? It's times like these that reinforce my excellent decision not to follow news and politics.

Through various podcasts I pick up bits and pieces like emergency funds to people and businesses getting held up over which pork belly spending should be included.

How are we in the year 2020 and still allowing bills to have garbage added? Every bill should address a single issue and it should be illegal to put anything else in it. A candidate should run promising to make this practice illegal. I'd vote for that person almost regardless of anything else.
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Batch voting for bills is being lazy.
They should have to yah or nay through every line item.
Then their pay check reflects the % of votes missed.
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Heck, they should be required to take a multiple choice test on the bills. If they score below 70% on questions pertaining to if they know what's in the bill, they don't get to vote and their pay decreases proportionately.

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The problem is our President speaks in a gibberish and cant complete full sentences.

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"I’m not looking — I’m not looking at months, I can tell you right now. We’re going to be opening up our country, and we’re going to be watching certain areas. And we’re going to be practicing everything that — that Deborah is referring to right here. I mean, we’re going to be watching this very closely. But you can’t keep it closed for the next, you know, for years. Okay?

This is going away. We’re — we’re going to win the battle, but we also have — you know, you have tremendous responsibility. We have jobs, we have — people get tremendous anxiety and depression, and you have suicides over things like this when you have terrible economies. You have death. Probably and — I mean, definitely would be in far greater numbers than the numbers that we’re talking about with regard to the virus."


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