You won't believe how an obscure regulator may make gas prices explode in 2020 with this one trick!

[2016 Versa]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

6 million is less than 0.1% of the world's population (7-8 billion). Restricting 99.9% of the populace to save 0.1% is ridiculous.

Maybe if you're not one of that 0.1% of the population. If you were one of those 6M you'd be wanting more restrictions. I don't like the idea of more government regulations and higher prices any more than the next person but I don't think it's right to put a $ amount on human life. An older friend of mine was hospitalized early last week for pneumonia. By Thursday they had sent him home because medicare wouldn't cover him staying any longer. Government and insurance companies have more power anymore than the treating physicians and that's not right.

[redpoint5]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

You mean more regulations, control, and government interference? No thanks.

6 million is less than 0.1% of the world's population (7-8 billion). Restricting 99.9% of the populace to save 0.1% is ridiculous.

... and making shipping more expensive effectively makes everything cost more, which effectively makes everyone poorer, which actually kills people.

Making things cost more is "kicking the teeth" of those that have died as a result of lack of material needs.

We've already shown that as worldwide prosperity increases, death decreases. The only thing left to determine is if the SOx pollution, which is short lived and mostly confined to the location in which it's emitted (mostly out at sea), kills more people, or if the decrease in material wealth due to more expensive shipping would kill more people.

All decisions have opportunity costs associated. There is no such thing as a decision that is without expense to something else.

[Fat Charlie]

I am shocked, shocked to find that fuel requirements are going to be... Oh, right, it's been coming for years. Too many business "planners" never look beyond the next quarterly report when making their plans.

I'm actually a fan of clean air, despite the immediate, measurable expense for polluters. If .01% die from poor air quality, how many more are sickened or otherwise suffer? Do polluters get credit for the added economic activity of those people seeking treatment or buying air purifiers?

As simple policy, I'm in favor of less pollution. I don't care who makes money from it.

[redpoint5]

First mention on the topic of the pollution here:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ers-19988.html

...and here's the original thread talking about this exact topic:

https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ump-37303.html

Why not continue conversation in the original for the sake of continuity?

[litesong]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

6 million is less than 0.1% of the world's population (7-8 billion).

mpg_numbers_guy muffs its numbers. 6 million people per year over a lifetime is over a third of a billion people. Dying to breathe is tough enough. But when living people say to dying people, "You're not worth it", the sadistic, living people should be allowed to exit life, first.
https://e360.yale.edu/features/at-la...ts-dirty-fuels

https://fruitworldmedia.com/wp-conte...-pollution.jpg

[oil pan 4]

We know global warming cultists have made numerous attacks against international commerce.
Last time they were crying about how mersk produced as much CO2 as whatever small country.
Of course they always offer the same solutions for both problems.

[mpg_numbers_guy]

Originally Posted by 2016 Versa

Government and insurance companies have more power anymore than the treating physicians and that's not right.

The question then arises, who will implement these regulations? Physicians can't. It then becomes yet another government program, another overreach of government authority into private life.

It is NOT okay to punish 99.9% of the population to save 0.1%.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about less pollution, but I think it should come from individual and organizational effort, not government regulation.

[Xist]

Huh. I am subscribed to that thread. I shall commit ritual Sudoku.

Wait, what was I supposed to do?

[litesong]

Originally Posted by oil pan 4

..... "AGW advocates"..... have made numerous attacks against international commerce.

No need for that at all:
https://fruitworldmedia.com/wp-conte...-pollution.jpg

..... except when international commerce attacks young children & general populations of people living near sea ports & heavily polluted shipping lanes. "4 oil pans" makes shipping sound like a poor whimpering dog in the corner, instead of the boardroom plotting CEO's, who increase their deep & black child-killing pollution rates, so the CEO's are richer.

[Natalya]

Originally Posted by mpg_numbers_guy

It is NOT okay to punish 99.9% of the population to save 0.1%.

LOL do those people not deserve to live? How many people need to die before the threshold is reached to do something about this pollution? Is there a magic number? Are the lives of other living breathing human beings less valuable than some "pain" at the gas pump? Is paying an extra 30 cents for a gallon of gas a "punishment" so intolerable that it warrants the deaths of others?

Don't get me wrong, I'm all about less pollution, but I think it should come from individual and organizational effort, not government regulation.

Yeah when pigs fly right?