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1000-gigaton Methane Bomb tonight
I won't be able to see it, but tonight, on PBS NOVA, and in later podcasts, NOVA is doing a program on Arctic permafrost methane sinkholes.
It could be one-hour well spent if you've never heard about this climate challenge.
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02-02-2022, 03:09 PM
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02-02-2022, 03:48 PM
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Yeah I saw it when it first came out. They pretend like this has never ever happened before and is the end of the world.
I highly encourage people to watch it. I know of nothing that will get people burned out faster on dooms day climate change than a PBS documentary on the subject.
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02-02-2022, 05:23 PM
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like it never happened before
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Yeah I saw it when it first came out. They pretend like this has never ever happened before and is the end of the world.
I highly encourage people to watch it. I know of nothing that will get people burned out faster on dooms day climate change than a PBS documentary on the subject.
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From what I gathered from the field scientists involved, it has NEVER happened before.
I'd didn't experience any 'doomsday'.
Although they managed to toss out a constellation of dots for us to connect.
'Spies are useless to the unperspicacious'. Sun Tsu, 'The Art of War'
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02-02-2022, 08:13 PM
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NEVER is a long, long time. You have proof?
NEVER happened before? It goes back eight years. Does that count? Try
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“These craters represent an Earth system process that was previously unknown to scientists,” Sue Natali, Arctic program director at Woodwell Climate Research Center and co-author on the study, said in an emailed statement.
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gizmodo.com/methane-is-blowing-more-holes-in-the-arctic
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02-03-2022, 07:48 AM
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Never since the end of the last ice age.
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02-07-2022, 11:58 AM
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Methane has a specific chemical signature which can be distinguished from all other hydrocarbons.
There is nothing that has been discovered in the paleoclimate record which recognizes thawing permafrost as a phenomena ever witnessed before by humans.
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02-07-2022, 12:00 PM
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Never since the end of the last ice age.
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Never when humans were on the planet.
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Methane has a specific chemical signature which can be distinguished from all other hydrocarbons.
There is nothing that has been discovered in the paleoclimate record which recognizes thawing permafrost as a phenomena ever witnessed before by humans.
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Possibly because...
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Atmospheric methane - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › Atmospheric_methane
Methane has a large effect but for a relatively brief period, having an estimated mean half-life of 9.1 years in the atmosphere, whereas carbon dioxide is currently given an estimated mean lifetime of over 100 years.
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methane
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Methane is 21-times more potent as a greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide.
Methane 'IS' relatively short-lived and turns into carbon dioxide with a one-thousand -year lifetime.
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