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1965 Ford F100 Aero cap? Photoshop inside...
Modding the Probe and reading about other success stories here has made me really want to improve my truck's 14-15mpg. Just driving it to car shows and whatnot isn't bad but last summer I daily drove it for two months while working on my Rabbit so the gas costs got painful for this college student.
Anyway, I'm just going to post up some ideas to see what you all think. It would be cool to make this over winter break so it'll hit the ground running next spring :thumbup: The cap would probably be made of painted plywood and hinged at the top for easy access. You can see the panel gaps in the 3/4 view. It's got to still be functional so it'll probably have to slot into the stake pockets for easy removal. Of course the truck would get a belly pan and very small air dam as well, because honestly the twin I beam and underbody are a complete aero mess! Anyway, 2 minute Photoshops... http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6236/...d87d990a_z.jpg Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6235/...e89b2007_z.jpg Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr Perhaps a curved top to emulate Hucho's template? http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6107/...b8e713cb_z.jpg Aero Cap? by Tyler Linner, on Flickr Would it be good to taper in plan view too, or will the edges of the box negate this? Could I make a window in it? Out of what, plexi? What kind of gains have others seen with aero caps? PS- for those who are wondering it's a 352 V8 with 3 on the tree. Hardly economical. |
I like the idea of doing something retro and period correct, which your font certainly seems to conjure.
Curving the rear corners so it ends up being more of an arch at the little end does seem to be the trend, and would flatter the rest of your curves. I think rear vision is surrendered unless you are going plexi-glass roof with a Prius type rear mini window. Have you thought of making this an aero camper? I have not seen this done yet. I don't mean "pop-up" style, I have seen that. I'm thinking more like the green template humping the roof and then tapering back. http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ck-overlay.jpg |
The first two pics -- side view -- look like Air Force service vehicles. Or, a local gas station light-duty wrecker (low boom). Both cool. Let the letter type" match the Ford lettering "type" is ideal, nearly as you have it. The curved piece is almost more a 1930's or 40's look. Maybe "better", but outside of the period appeal. I vote the first pair. Either would be outstanding!
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The vision is a legitimate concern so it will have to be addressed. Perhaps some thin-ish acrylic? I could layer them one over another like a lobster shell so water and air don't get caught up in the gaps. I have thought a little about making some usable space in the bed but it really comes down to the fact that I'd never use it. However, one of my life goals (hopefully implemented in the next 5 years) is to travel the US or perhaps the continent in a VW T2 or T3 camper. This of course would need a boat tail! :D But seriously with the long distance driving it could mean hundreds of dollars of savings. Cliffs: Not on this vehicle. Quote:
There really isn't a script font anywhere on the truck save for the Ford logo on the steering wheel so I'll probably just make up something 60's-ish like I did here. (Yes, it's hand lettered :D) One of my contacts also said the curved top reminded him of this White streamliner: http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4071/4...7e10ca32b0.jpg 1937 White Model 700 Streamline Tanker Truck by aldenjewell, on Flickr I still think it's more period correct than a boxy triangle but who knows? Quote:
Plan taper, got it! Next step: 3D mockup! (Not for awhile though- finals loom) http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3563/3...bb7b0119_m.jpg 1966 Ford F-100-750 Conventional Cab Dimensions by Custom_Cab, on Flickr |
I think this is how the overlay needs to be done:
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^^That's the way I did it. If you're talking to Kachi, he was trying to make a high top camper.
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It's a more challenging fabrication but will pay the biggest dividend at the pump if your willing to take it on. |
Thank you for commenting, Phil! I have done a few drawings and imagine the side to side support beams to have radii on the outside edges which get larger as they go back. This could include plan view tapering but I'd like it to go to all edges for storage and looks reasons. The problem then would be what to use for skin.
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Oh damn! When you find something would you mind posting a thread on them?
3D model in progress... couldn't help myself. |
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All those random truck pics should really have their own thread...
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6033/6...072db125_z.jpg Aero cap mockup by Tyler Linner, on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6108/6...e07f9bc9_z.jpg Aero cap mockup by Tyler Linner, on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6102/6...89e77312_z.jpg Aero cap mockup by Tyler Linner, on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6240/6...b5df05ac_z.jpg Aero cap mockup by Tyler Linner, on Flickr |
For some odd reason the top of the cab wouldn't turn white...
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6212/6...f322d5f1_z.jpg Aero Cap by Tyler Linner, on Flickr http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6054/6...456cd5e4_z.jpg Aero Cap by Tyler Linner, on Flickr |
That looks very intriguing.
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that duck tail one looks great! Now just imagine for a moment, a receiver hitch bumper and tail light extension assembly about 4' back, and a three piece easy on/easy off removable boat tail for the long road trips. Might be worth building a temp one to see of it pays.
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And picking up the ladies! This is slightly more masculine than my '81 b**ch basket hahaha |
Not a trailer, a set of tail lights and light frame that plugs into a receiver hitch. then you attach the boat tail on that.
I doubt it would enhance the chick magnet effect. |
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BZP I'll take another look.
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Thanks a ton to ChazinMT for the Flow Illustrator! I threw up a few variants. Looks like the belly pan should angle up more in the rear. Maybe it can angle up to the bottom of the bumper. That would be slick. Did a couple more renditions with longer rear pans. They seem to do some good. http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7015/6...8e89377a_o.jpg Program crashed so I'll try more later. |
Ok my big presentation was yesterday so I had some spare time today.
Looks like the flat cap does pretty much the same thing as the aero cap. It's also 100x easier to build. Have fun. Left: tailgate down tailgate up flat cap aero cap teardrop Right: top three: w/ bellypan bottom: w/ nosecone http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7146/6...c756a429_b.jpg |
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I'm glad that I came back to this thread, cool stuff.
I found this in the site's pick-up truck album section today. Fuel Economy, Hypermiling, EcoModding News and Forum - EcoModder.com - aerohead's Album: Pickup images - Picture http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-ae...-overdrive.jpg Quote:
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FYI - Lots of interesting article and ideas here - streamliners and teardroppers | Hemmings Blog: Classic and collectible cars and parts
I think this old "Seagrams Diamond T" streamline truck could be a source of inspiration. http://blog.hemmings.com/wp-content/...01_resized.jpg FWIW, Tim |
^^^ Most of those old streamliners were more styling exercises than anything. I do like them but they have to be kept in their own place- next to the Chrysler Airflows of the world. :)
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The Dodge pickup was probably one of my biggest sources of inspiration for this particular aero cap. (Along with BZP's enthralling Toyota) |
We are kicked out of work for 4th of July week so I'm taking the opportunity to go back to MN to get the truck and drive it to my new place in Detroit. This means aeromodding.
I've been thinking about work vs. payoff on the 750 mile trip which, at 15mpg, will cost about $200- the same as an Amtrak ticket. If I bump it up to 16mpg (6% better) I'll save 1.8 gallons and $7. At 17mpg (13% better) I'll save 6 gallons and ~$24. Remember, I have to buy lead fuel additive as well. I really don't think it's going to be practical to get more than 15% increase with the week I've got at home. It's also going to be carrying my Schwinn Hornet and some random crap. Tentative plan is: half tonneau cover, deep front air dam, wheel skirts, passenger mirror delete, partial grille block(without covering any of the radiator). Also, oil/filter change, coolant flush, make sure stuff's working. Does anyone else have some ideas? I'm looking at probably breaking even after doing these mods. The air dam will probably stay on long-term. Tonneau, maybe. Am I missing anything? EDIT- the mirror mounts are so simple on this thing that I could probably build up a small bullet shaped convex mirror and save quite a bit of frontal area and Cd. With 1961 truck technology, I'm going to need all the help I can get. I'll do some googling, but does anyone know if using E0 gas will be worth the money in an old vehicle like this? (352 V8) http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5263/5...e81aced9_b.jpg |
I've been running E10 in the '59 for 13 years now. I'm expecting valve recession but it still runs good. If/when I detect a valve issue I'll have hardened seats installed, no big deal.
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Your truck would look good with a white 1/2 cover, the black colored product tends to swell in direct sun and remains quite distorted once it cools back down. S10 4x4 Pick Up Photos by kach22i | Photobucket http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...psd50b7b34.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...psfd11bc4d.jpg http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x...ps81a3ae8b.jpg A stiffer heavier material may be warranted. Half the work is getting the supplies and details sorted out, it's a fast job after that. I'd make the cover the second thing on the list. |
^^^ Thanks on the topper. I didn't think about distortion, but it would just be plywood cut to fit anyway. None of that fancy rubberylonastica! :D
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Now thinking that it might not be a big deal to just built an entire aero cap like the green '77 F100 here on EM. Even if it's just a triangle, it should save me almost $20 over the trip, increasing total savings to $30 or so... just speculative. A half-tonneau may not hold the improvements I'd like over that kind of mileage. Either way the ROI would be at the very end of the trip, or on future trips. More of a "what can this truck do" experiment... |
It gets driven so little I suspect a good portion of the fuel evaporates (no evap system). When I did check it IIRC it got 20. I've put about 12,000 miles on it over those years.
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Lead additive if it is being worked hard. Easy highway cruise, no.
- Age of your tires and their pressure is a higher concern (Firestone Transforce has an excellent price/reputation in oilfield work). Monroe Reflex shocks - The big one is: coolant + pump + hoses + thermostat (MR GASKET 4363, the old ROBERTSHAW HD piece [see pics; buy from this range]; ck for fit and temps). I'd also add Radiator Master RMI-25 to the propoer blend of new coolant. If the radiator is at all questionable, repair or replace. Same for fan, clutch and shroud. This system is likely the most problematic due to lack of maintenance, and most likely to leave you stranded. Fuel pump a close second. (My first car, 1973, was a 1966 V8-428 Ford Country Squire with every single option. Test runs out of Dallas on FM-455 blasting through Sanger, TX part of the tuning regimen back then. The old FE Ford motor ain't exciting, but it is reliable). - New exterior lamps, fuses, etc, just because they are old. Keep current ones as spares. HD flasher unit (electronic) if not already in place. - Wiper blades and brake linings. - Steering slop. Record your mechanical baseline (maintenance/repairs). On a truck it is even more important than with a car, and work will show larger FE changes. . |
I always use lead additive and this most recent fillup was with 91 octane too, which seems to help it run smoother.
Unfortunately didn't have much time to prep the truck but it did great the whole way. No overheating or any issue besides the battery connections not working once. We (a friend rode along/co-drove) repositioned the cables and it worked fine. Made an air dam with the deepest lawn edging available at Menards (over a trimmed 2x6 wooden frame and bolted to the frame) and threw on the plywood tonneau my dad had been using to protect the bed. Ended up with 15, 17, 17, averaging 16.3mpg over the whole trip. Wow! http://i44.tinypic.com/5da1w6.jpg I don't think I'll be driving this on the freeway enough to really warrant any more aeromods and likely will just remove the air dam and tonneau since I don't like that look on this old truck. But it was a success! |
So it's coming time to drive to MN and back. I've got to bring home a drill press and it's cheaper to drive Boo than take Amtrak then rent a pickup/minivan/car.
I've had a shop here do a lot of work to it last week (incl. carb rebuild), and am taking it in tonight to tie up loose ends and discuss concerns. In the mean time, I'm trying to throw together some aeromods. Last time the air dam paid for its $20 self, and I'm hoping the addition of a well-designed tonneau will help even more. I bought two 4x8', 1/2" OSB sheets and am going to hopefully throw something together. Putting the template over it, it appears that I can gain some efficiency by extending the [blue] tonneau back about 15" from the inside of the tailgate. The blueprint is incorrect; I added a new tailgate line where the bed really ends (7' long, 6' wide over top of bed rails). http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-sv...00-tonneau.jpg I'd love to build some sides on it to create a box cavity, but don't think I'll have time for that. I'll taper the edges of the tonneau in about 10-15 degrees and hope for the best. I'd love to do a partial tonneau, but I'll be carrying bicycles in the back. http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-sv...ture4138-a.jpg Other temporary mods will include passenger mirror removal, and perhaps some tape-on wheel skirts if I feel like messing with painter's tape again. I'd like to have a more aero-friendly mirror to throw on the driver's side, but it's not in the cards this time around. Also might try some airflow trips on the front leading edges of the truck. These trucks actually have pretty decent stock grille blocks though. I suppose it will be something like 5-7% improvement, since the stock bed is too short to really create a phantom boat tail. Add to that the air dam that I kept from the last trip, and we might be talking about something from maybe 6-10% improvement, no? So, maybe 17 mpg or so. Last time I topped out at 17mpg but it was running rich. I'm really hoping the new tune and new tonneau will bring it back up there, and maybe brush closer to 20 mpg. 18mpg would be about 38 gallons and $115 one-way. An Amtrak round trip ticket is ~$140 and renting a truck for the weekend is $600+ |
18 mpg
18 seems like a reasonable expectation.
My grandfather's old Dodge went from 11-mpg,to 16 mpg with 4-speed OD and taller rear axle. An aero nose/grille-block/ fan delete/Plex headlight covers/front wheel gap closures/side mirror delete and addition of small car mirrors/full rear skirts,and aeroshell got it to 21.5 mpg.On a weak slant-six.It already had full wheel discs. No doubt the Ford has low 20s potential,but I think you'll have to take it further to get it. Let us know!;) |
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http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthread.php/1965-ford-f100-aero-cap-photoshop-inside-19522-2.html#post271138 For when you get back, I like KamperBob's rendering from 2011. A little signage in a 60s typeface could 'age' it appropriately. How big a drill press? I got this one at Goodwill for $45: http://ecomodder.com/forum/member-fr...5-100-0842.jpg I have no idea why importing this picture un-rotated it. :confused: |
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That's a reasonable theory, but I resized and rotated and the resizing stuck while the rotation dit-ent. So I'm still :confused:
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