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Old 06-20-2011, 01:45 AM   #41 (permalink)
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Well, I thought I'd give the movie a watch, but when I went to the link, it wanted to load a "Toolbar" on my computer in exchange for viewing the movie. Yer somethin else posting that here. Not only would I have to sit through a complete BS Zeitgiest type movie which is probably 99% fiction, but I get to have a spyware/virus loaded on my computer, if you watched that movie from that sight it says a lot about you.

Thanks but no thanks, paint my a$$ naysayer and call me Sally, I'll refrain from saying what I think of you Chancy.

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Old 06-20-2011, 02:20 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Prove it... with MATH!!!

First, gasoline has a little over 36,000 watt-hours of energy depending on the blend (36,650 to be exact). That number is a constant, it cannot change, to change it would be impossible, therefore, not everything is possible only some things are possible.



Ok, so let's take my car for example, on a good day with lots of freeway driving my car can get 20 mpg. 1 gallon of gas has about 36,000 watt-hours of energy in it. 20 mpg means .05 gallons is used every mile, in energy terms that 1,800 watt-hours per mile. My car is a bit over 3000 pounds and has a drag coefficient of .36.


To get 200 mpg .005 gallons would be used in 1 mile. In .005 gallons of gas is 180 watt-hours, tiny bit to go very far




80 mpg for a fully ICE is near the max without complete overhaul like that shell car

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Old 06-20-2011, 02:47 AM   #43 (permalink)
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I wonder, you know how crude oil is basically made of millions of years old dinosaurs?
If we could analyse it to see what dinosaurs it contains, I think we might be able to refine better fuels.
For example, gasoline refined from oil made from mostly sauropods and big hulking slow dinosaurs might well have less energy content than that made from velociraptors and tyrannosauruses and other fearsome predators, which would naturally contain huge amounts of energy.
I don't think this area has been sufficiently explored.
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Old 06-20-2011, 03:22 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Well thank you for pointing out my errors... oh wait.. you didn't. And I'm sure they can be overlooked or aren't so big that my point is not proven.

Hahaha very good point you make markweatherill! Who knows the energy differences those dinosaurs may have had. I'd like to see some research into that!
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To get 200 mpg .005 gallons would be used in 1 mile. In .005 gallons of gas is 180 watt-hours. So to go 200 miles in 1 gallon of gas would take 180,000 watt-hours.
That is 5 times more energy than is in 1 gallon of gas
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You have a math problem in the above selected passage too, in addition to the circular logic issue.

Gasoline also has variations from the 36,600 kwh values of up to +-4% depending on batch and season.

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Going off of how much energy is in a gallon of gas, the most mpg one can possibly achieve would be 80 mpg.
True, unless one achieves 80+ mpg.
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Frank has some valid points about that "mathematical" assessment. Thanks for taking the time to expand on them Frank.

But since an over-engineered/under-loaded lightbulb can last 110 years I'm afraid you are both batshirt crazy :P Scientists have been saying that for YEARS!!! (LOL!!)

seriously, I think IamIan had a very well considered post here, regarding the realities of what a carb swap can or cannot do:
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...tml#post226059
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:21 AM   #50 (permalink)
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anyway, finally looked up the snopes version, and low and behold, it also mentions a lightbulb!?! (WTF?!? got nothing to do with MPG?!? This obviously is not an original stream of consciousness)

snopes.com: Miracle Carburetor

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