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Old 04-20-2011, 03:19 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Looks better than the previous generation Beetle. I guess it's ok, but I've just never been a fan of the VW Beetle and for the money I'm I'm sure you could find something much more economical.

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Old 04-20-2011, 03:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Don't like it.
Looks like a smashed bug.

Aerodynamics are still a mess - turn it around, little doubt it'll be better !
Agreed. I still like my "New" Beetle.
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Old 04-20-2011, 03:29 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Engine choices are barf.
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Volkswagen of America said in a statement that the 2012 Beetle will offer three engines: a 170-horsepower 2.5-liter gasoline five-cylinder engine, a 140-hp 2.0-liter four-cylinder TDI clean diesel engine and a 200-hp 2.0-liter four-cylinder TSI turbocharged gasoline engine.
A TDI is all you need to get 50+mpg.
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Here is why the original Beetle succeeded:

1) Value- you got what you paid for, and then some. You didn't need a 5-year note to afford it.
2) Economy- cheap on gas, cheap parts, cheap repairs, cheap everything.
3) Simplicity- you don't need a PhD, or special tools from Germany to work on it.
4) Versatility- you can go down the highway, you can go off-road without 4x4.
5) Durability- it wasn't a rotted out pile of poo quite as quickly as everything else. It could take a hit. It could take a roll. It could take off-roading and beg for more.
6) Longevity- the same parts would fit models many years apart. Few parts + parts interchangeability = ease of stocking parts = plethora of suppliers in addition to OEM to choose from = every corner store probably had the parts you need. (I recall buying a cap, rotor, and ignition coil for my Bug at KMart on a Sunday evening when I was 800 miles from home).
7) Design that transcends trends and fads- the 70 year-old version is STILL cooler than the new one- why? Because it's totally honest.

I don't see the new one possessing ANY of these traits. This is because executives and designers don't know what the real world is like anymore.
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Old 04-20-2011, 06:01 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I never got the appeal of the new beetles either, and apparently everyone agreed with me since the only ones I saw were being driven by ultra hip school kids.
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...first thing my wife said when she saw it on TV was: "...well, it's sorta cute, but it gets lousey gas milage!.."
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It looks "ok" for what it is, but I would nix the rear taillights for something that is closer to one of the original rear taillight designs.

I agree with Frank that it's not a "real" Beetle. It's a nostalgia-retro machine.

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Old 04-21-2011, 11:39 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Please.

A TDI is all you need to get 50+mpg.
And while that is the best option, what happened to the 1.8T gasser?
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And while that is the best option, what happened to the 1.8T gasser?
It's a 2.0 liter engine, just like the TDI went from 1.9 liters to 2.0. More is better, right?
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Smaller displacement = less consumed at idle. But, if it's got idle stop, I guess that won't be an issue.

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