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Xringer 05-28-2012 10:49 AM

3,500 New 2013 Ford Escapes damaged
 
Hail storm takes a toll of $175 million in Louisville; thousands of new Ford Escapes damaged | The Courier-Journal | courier-journal.com

Maybe folks living in the Louisville area can pick up one of these and a dent puller, for cheap money??

rmay635703 06-13-2012 09:51 PM

Ford says no, not sure what they are doing but Ford won't saturate their market allowing the price to drop, auto makers are very conscience these days to make slightly less volume than what they need to keep the prices high.

niky 06-13-2012 11:00 PM

It's liability worries. Just as with Mazda when they lost that boatload of stock... they don't want customers complaining several years down the line that they got "lemons" that rust early, squeak, rattle, have poor body integrity or weird window/windshield fitment.

They'll strip all the undamaged mechanicals out of the cars and recycle the shells into new metal, most likely. It's a waste, but given how trigger-happy lawsuit-mongers are, it's the only thing a manufacturer can do to keep itself covered.

Xringer 06-13-2012 11:16 PM

I wonder if some of those damaged were Hybrids??

rmay635703 06-14-2012 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niky (Post 312263)
It's liability worries. Just as with Mazda when they lost that boatload of stock... they don't want customers complaining several years down the line that they got "lemons" that rust early, squeak, rattle, have poor body integrity or weird window/windshield fitment.

Thats partially true but there isn't any liability on salvage or repaired title cars, at least if its reported as such.

niky 06-16-2012 10:27 AM

Doesn't matter. If customers end up with poorly repaired cars and are under the impression that they're new, it affects brand image.

Xringer 06-16-2012 11:06 AM

There are laws in the USA about selling re-furbished/etc goods as "New".
These damaged Fords might be covered under those rules..

Especially,since they were out of the factory (finished goods) waiting for shipment.

And, since the insurance company would likely be handling the disposition of the cars,
they will make sure they can't be liable for sales under false pretenses..

I would think the repairs would become part of the VIN history. (By federal law).
Show Me the CARFAX! :)

niky 06-16-2012 11:28 AM

Look at the big picture...

No auto company is willing to sell anything brand new that was damaged in a natural disaster. Mazda ferry accident cars? Scrapped. Japanese tsunami cars? Scrapped. Thai flood cars? Scrapped. Hail damaged cars? You get the idea.

Even with carfax, insurance and liability disclaimers, the fact that a customer is receiving a significantly damaged or nearly destroyed car with nearly zero miles on the odometer is a big risk that the manufacturer is NOT willing to take. They are not willing to guarantee the repairs, they are not willing to stand by the product, they are not even willing to try.

It's not just the reliability, but also the safety aspect. Customer has an unsafe car because of something the customer did (worn tires... dirty brakes... etcetera), that's on the customer. Customer has an unsafe car because the company willingly sold damaged goods... that's on the company. And you can bet that some judge will find them liable no matter what precautions they take.

Thus... the cars go on the scrapheap... even if there's a 99% chance they're still good... because no company wants to be left holding the ball when that 1% ends up in court.

Xringer 06-16-2012 12:37 PM

If Ford gives up ownership of the dented cars to the insurance co.
I don't see how Ford would ever have any problems.
After all, the VINs are forever.

Plus, it's not like hail stones car harm the tires, engine, battery etc...
Heck, they might be re-furbished well enough that Ford might want to sell them as used.

MPGranger 06-16-2012 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xringer (Post 312265)
I wonder if some of those damaged were Hybrids??

Nope, 2013 escapes have the 1.6L ecoboost option which gets better FE than a 2012 escape hybrid. The old ICE still has learned a few new tricks, maybe a full hybrid would have compared better.

FYI: The 2.0L ecoboost can haul the same as the 2012 escapes V6


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