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Old 08-18-2020, 03:51 AM   #11 (permalink)
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This is a typical workhorse. These cars are often badly beaten = heavily used. My sister had one in the same color for a couple of years and was also covered with bumps and scratches (and yes she has 4 kids that often have something to do with it )
But you could do anything with it, damn handy cars. It can be kept on the road fairly cheap.
Yeah I think this one has had a busy shift. Mechanically it seems ok, but bodily it's tired.

Cleaning the interior made a huge difference though

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Old 08-19-2020, 01:36 PM   #12 (permalink)
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More work for this today - first tip run in our ownership..

It takes a fair old whack!



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Old 08-20-2020, 06:43 PM   #13 (permalink)
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That's a great all-around commuter, extremely versatile. No wonder this model is still a favorite in Argentina where it's still available brand-new (with the 1.6L EC5 gasser and the 1.6 HDi as the sole turbodiesel option after the DW8 got phased out). I have never seen one with the 2.0L turbodiesel.
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That's a great all-around commuter, extremely versatile. No wonder this model is still a favorite in Argentina where it's still available brand-new (with the 1.6L EC5 gasser and the 1.6 HDi as the sole turbodiesel option after the DW8 got phased out). I have never seen one with the 2.0L turbodiesel.
It's master of none but a decent jack of all trades. The floorpan is shared with the Peugeot 306/Citroen Xsara so you could improve the handling of you wanted with aftermarket parts.

The 2.0 DW10 Seems ok in this 8v 90bhp version. No intercooler, no dual mass flywheel, so relatively safe for a modern turbo diesel.

Remapping seems simple, but I think I will have it run for a while longer before considering that.

The 1.6Hdi is a steaming pile of turd by most accounts - mainly due to its inability to cope with neglect. Properly maintained they seem ok
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Old 08-21-2020, 06:41 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Today it was time for this to be spoiled.

As last of the big spenders, I had splashed out 28.85 on some service items..

5L 5W40 Fully Synthetic oil from Asda (15)

Oil filter

Air filter

Fuel filter (totalling 13.85)

After a spirited run to the unit, the Pela was deployed.



Whilst that chooched away, attention was turned to the air filter

Despite appearances, the two screws on the airbox came out cleanly:


after removing the maf connector the lid was lifted off and the filter extracted



The old one didn't look too bad - but as I had the new one in stock, it'd be rude not to change it.

Next was the fuel filter:

As this is a late MK1 2.0hdi Berlingo, it has a Siemens (s******) fuel system. Earlier ones came with a Bosch setup.

In their infinite wisdom, this means that the fuel filter housings are different too. The two fuel filters I had in-stock were for the earlier Bosch system - an embuggerance!

Nevertheless, I acquired the correct filter and could press on with the job.

Removing the filter lock ring required the use of a screwdriver and finishing hammer



Much like the lock ring on an in-tank fuel pump.

That removed, the electrical connector (!?) Off and the leftmost fuel pipe removed, it was time to get the filter out.



This had obviously been in post for quite some time..

New filter in, and it was time to change the seal at the top of the housing - handily supplied with the filter.

Then the locking ring, fuel pipe and connector were refitted

By now, the oil had been sooked and drained out. Time for the oil filter then.



Nicely accessible at the bottom front of the engine.

Time to play "hunt the oil leak"

Firstly, time to get it skywards (pictured here with a motley crew of assembled scrap)



Then crawl underneath and see what was what.

The answer? Who knows? It's a maze of pipes and everything was honking



I cleaned up as best I could, then turned my attention to bleeding the brakes.

That improved the pedal feel somewhat, and made the most of what looks like very recent front discs and pads!

The rear drums were externally crusty, and I suspect the rear brakes could do with some adjustment (I think the auto adjusters are not), but I didn't want to start stripping them down without spare parts available.

That done, fresh oil (4.5L) was put in and leaks checked for. All good - only the pre-existing oil leak present.

An initial start showed it to be happy, so the service light was reset - apparently 12500 miles to the next one.. I reckon it may be more like 8-10k if it stays on fleet that long.

The last things to do were - apply a temporary* fix to the air duct locator.



Noted down the paint code lest I lose my mind and attempt to sort some of the bodywork issues.



It drove the 40 miles home with no issue, so calling that a win!
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I usually see people praising the DV6 engine, not complaining about its reliability. When it comes to the non-intercooled DW10, it had a conservative tune we don't see anymore due to the obsession which revolved around turning Diesels into a contender for gassers performance-wise instead of focusing on their advantages on efficiency and longer lasting.

On a sidenote, Siemens fuel systems are also not so appreciated in Brazil, mostly due to the lack of independent maintenance outlets able to provide technical service, while the Bosch fuel systems are not only more widespread but also easier to find service.
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I usually see people praising the DV6 engine, not complaining about its reliability.
They are not well regarded in the UK - they are renowned for turbo failure (possibly due to the extended service plans most leased vehicles are on nowadays). I imagine if well looked after, it's an ok engine.

The DW10 is not a patch on the XUDT, at least in my Luddite opinion.

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Yep, same here, not particularly loved .
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This is now out on loan to a mate of mine - standing in for his 23 mpg 2.3 auto Galaxy (the ford version of the VW Sharan people carrier)

Hopefully it does him a turn!

I brimmed the tank before taking it to him - 544.7 miles on 55.00L of derv.

45.02imp mpg (37.49 mpg US). not too shabby given it was getting lashed up the m74 and M6 then tootled about town.
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They are not well regarded in the UK - they are renowned for turbo failure (possibly due to the extended service plans most leased vehicles are on nowadays). I imagine if well looked after, it's an ok engine.
Along the less-restrictive emission standards, the fear of turbocharger-related failures could explain why the DW8 with natural aspiration and indirect injection remained available for longer in Argentina and Uruguay. Turbocharged engines do require better care, most noticeably when it comes to oil specifications, but it's impossible to not look after and expect any engine to retain a good reliability.


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The EW/DW engine series were in fact an improvement of the XU/XUD series.
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The EW/DW engine series were in fact an improvement of the XU/XUD series.
They were indeed a development, but adding complexity does not always lead to improvement

The dw8 was also available in the UK in the Berlingo.

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