50% of your EV energy consumption comes from wheels and tires

[j-c-c]

Originally Posted by freebeard

This is mostly about trains, but it draws comparisons with cars:

At 10:14 there is a very interesting clip of a thin-fender era car in a wind tunnel.

Trains have drag that cars don't, like flanges squealing on the sides of the rail on corners. But car tire's tread blocks deform on corners and lift one edge. So tires performance should be different on a [industry standard 100ft] circle versus a straight track.

Oh, and he could not pull a flat car by hand. I've done so a few times, but I used a car bar.


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Yes, it's a great example of why trains can't stop fast with the tiny contact patch between wheel and rail, but rolling resistance with the polished interface surfaces is minimal, and seldom hydroplane.

And how are we ceratin the person is pulling the rail car vs slowing it down?

[freebeard]

7000Bar means no hydroplaning,

Grease OTOH works, at least according to the movie Emperor of the North Pole.

[j-c-c]

So why omit the area that pressure actually applies to?
I included "seldom" above btw because with 6'+? of water, hydroplaning might start to become an issue.

[freebeard]

One of my cars is 3 1/2" to the tow bar. 6+" of water would go over the headlights. Ask me how I know.