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Old 08-01-2011, 04:13 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 08-01-2011, 04:52 PM   #12 (permalink)
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For a good belly laugh do a GOOGLE IMAGES for: Aero Spacelines Super Guppy
and consider this thing hurtling through the air at 285 mph!
I drive by one of these every day on my way to work at the Pima Air and Space museum. They have all kinds of old plains here in long term outdoor storage since we live in a dry climate. The thing that catches my eye is how thin the skin is on these big plains. You can tell by how it is slightly crinkled that it is nothing more than extra thick aluminum foil! Lower wieght = greater payload! They must be crasy light for how big they are.
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Old 08-01-2011, 06:28 PM   #13 (permalink)
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google "burnelli" a pioneer in flying wings and planes with an airfoil shaped fuselage, most of his ideas sadly never caught on and so planes are still tubes with wings stuck to it today.
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Old 08-01-2011, 09:25 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Burnelli must have very frustrated. I wonder why none of his designs were ever put into production. Were they slow?
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You can tell by how it is slightly crinkled that it is nothing more than extra thick aluminum foil! Lower wieght = greater payload! They must be crasy light for how big they are.
If you want to experience crazy light go to an aviation museum that has airship parts on display - and allows you to pick them up.

Now that's light !
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Old 08-02-2011, 10:02 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Burnelli must have very frustrated. I wonder why none of his designs were ever put into production. Were they slow?
i don't think they where much slower than their conventional counterparts.

but comertial airliner designs haven't changed much over the last few decades, most designs in use today come from the early 70's and while lots of electronics have been improved since the basic shape stayed the same.

just imagine cardesign hadn't changed since the 70's.

designing a plane like a tube with the wings and tail stuck on it makes it easier to change components without redoing the whole plane. it's quite common practice to enlarge a plane by "simply" incerting an extra bit of fuselage "tube" or upgrade an aircraft by hanging other engines from the wings etc...

these inflated designs that started the post illustrate how far you can depart from the original design without redoing a lot of major components also having a plane made up out of a tube means you can manifacture it as a series of rings, maximising the ammount of identical components.

with a plane that's more integrated, like the burnelli designs this is much more difficult. especially when they are scaled up to commertial airline size.

on the other hand the carashworthyness of these planes seems to be much higher than that of todays designs, wich is something to think about, also the more boxy shape means cargo and passengers capacity can be much improved.
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I need more info! I thought I had seen every obscure aircraft until now...
Who built it?
What was it called?
What museum is it in?

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Old 08-02-2011, 11:18 AM   #19 (permalink)
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It's a 3/5 scale replica, on display at the Toowoomba (YTWB) museum, Queensland Australia

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