Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 03-11-2008, 09:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Speedway, Indiana USA
Posts: 56
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Airdam or bellypan?

Looking for advice for my 97 Saturn coupe.

Is it better to remove the existing spoiler lip and add bellypan coverage or fab a front vertical spoiler as low as practical to the ground?

The tradeoff between deflecting air around the front vs guiding it underneath is what I'm pondering. (I'll add as much grill blocking as the ambient temp allows)

I know the Saturn Ion Bonneville car used a front valence but I'm guessing they had to maintain front aero downforce for traction and steering.
While at 60 mph those aren't nearly as important for my car.....

Thanks for any good ideas.

  Reply With Quote
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 03-11-2008, 09:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
H4MM3R's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Mackinac City, Michigan
Posts: 235
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Front air would be easier and it would give you a good return for your dollars.
  Reply With Quote
Old 03-11-2008, 10:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
ECO-Evolution
 
Lazarus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Central Texas
Posts: 1,482

Iron Horse (retired) - '97 Iron horse Intrepid

Ninja - '08 Kawasaki 250R
90 day: 76.23 mpg (US)
Thanks: 17
Thanked 45 Times in 34 Posts
If you have a good functional belly pan you don't need an airdam. The belly pan also has several other benefits. It helps the engine warm up faster hold the heat which in turn can be like a WAI.

Airdams are tricky and can create more drag then without. I tried 2 airdams and with on the road testing with a SG had a decrese in FE.

So I say grill block belly pan. YMMV
__________________
"Judge a person by their questions rather than their answers."

  Reply With Quote
Old 04-04-2008, 02:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,249
Thanks: 24,380
Thanked 7,358 Times in 4,758 Posts
airdam/ bellypan

I'm thinking that GM probably did a pretty good job with the underside of the Saturn and it's original airdam.If you go lower,you'll be increasing frontal area,actually increasing drag,and you run a good chance that it will strike the ground each time you go up or down a driveway.Some reports document that bellypans can show zero mpg improvement,some mpg improvement,or remarkable mpg improvement.There are no hard and fast rules on this one.If your going for really low drag,then I'd say do it,as future aftbody modifications will rely on the quality airflow only a full pan can provide.Carmakers aren't stupid and they can't waste shareholder money,and as you'll see more and more O.E.M. underside modifications to new cars,you definitely get the idea that they consider the underside something worth investing in .

__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread




Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
5th generation civic hatchback - improving aerodynamics AndrewJ Aerodynamics 396 06-13-2022 02:51 PM



Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com