11-04-2013, 12:15 PM
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Honda's issue is that their cars are way too sensible.
This sort of vehicle would fit most owners' real - rather than perceived - transport needs.
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Style is very subjective, I'll admit, but I just wouldn't be happy driving around in a cheap looking bubble car. For me the last Fit was good looking, and was still the same 5 door hatchback configuration. The new version is not proportionally attractive at all in my opinion. The wheels/tires are too small for the size of the body, the front end is too stubby, and it just doesn't have an attractive stance.
And it doesn't help it's case that they borrowed the front end from the Odyssey!
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11-04-2013, 01:33 PM
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The new version is not proportionally attractive at all in my opinion. The wheels/tires are too small for the size of the body, the front end is too stubby, and it just doesn't have an attractive stance.
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Smaller tyres mean cheaper tyres.
The off-balance body means lots of interior space.
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And it doesn't help it's case that they borrowed the front end from the Odyssey!
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All manufacturers want a common face on their cars these days ...
To the point that any Audi looks just like well, any other Audi.
They change everything and it still looks the same as before ...
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11-07-2013, 05:17 PM
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You know, hybrids are not my cup of tea, and if I would ever HAVE to get one, I'd try to get the one which doesn't looks so obviously-hybrid as a Prius or an Insight. Well, maybe the Fit is gonna have this same feature...
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11-10-2013, 09:39 PM
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Style is very subjective, I'll admit, but I just wouldn't be happy driving around in a cheap looking bubble car. For me the last Fit was good looking, and was still the same 5 door hatchback configuration. The new version is not proportionally attractive at all in my opinion. The wheels/tires are too small for the size of the body, the front end is too stubby, and it just doesn't have an attractive stance.
And it doesn't help it's case that they borrowed the front end from the Odyssey!
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I think the back end looks too much like an accent. It just doesn't look like the fit. However looks never sold the fit, the interior and driving dynamics did. It's just amazing how much stuff you can fit in one.
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You know, hybrids are not my cup of tea, and if I would ever HAVE to get one, I'd try to get the one which doesn't looks so obviously-hybrid as a Prius or an Insight. Well, maybe the Fit is gonna have this same feature...
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They look like hybrids, they look obviously aerodynamic. People have just come to associate the 2. Yes we have seen that cars can acheive the same levels without looking that way but what cost was that in R&D, the best one I can think of is the mercedes cla and without a hybrid system it is still way more expensive than both the insight and prius.
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11-11-2013, 01:06 AM
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They look like hybrids, they look obviously aerodynamic. People have just come to associate the 2. Yes we have seen that cars can acheive the same levels without looking that way but what cost was that in R&D, the best one I can think of is the mercedes cla and without a hybrid system it is still way more expensive than both the insight and prius.
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The CLA is targetted at a different segment than the Prius and the Insight. Anyway, there are some hybrids that are not really a benchmark on aerodynamics, such as the old Chevy Tahoe Hybrid
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11-11-2013, 02:09 PM
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The CLA is targetted at a different segment than the Prius and the Insight. Anyway, there are some hybrids that are not really a benchmark on aerodynamics, such as the old Chevy Tahoe Hybrid
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Yes but the tahoe hybrid was not an exericse is maximizing MPG like the prius and insight were. The prius had the goal of maximum MPG, so it's probable (and yes I'm making an assumption) that the direction was given to the engineers to make it as aerodynamic as possible hence it's form follows funtion look. With the insight the goal that Honda chose was almost as good MPG for much less cost, so again an assumption, but the engineers were probably given very little choice but to use a wedge shape.
So the popularity of those two cars causes people to say that's what a hybrid looks like when in fact they don't go hand in hand, ie the Tahoe or Escalade, or even the prius C/V.
Maybe you'll be happy with the next prius as interviews with Toyota employees on the project say they will be departing from the wedge shape to satisfy US tastes for a more normal looking car.
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11-13-2013, 03:26 PM
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Maybe you'll be happy with the next prius as interviews with Toyota employees on the project say they will be departing from the wedge shape to satisfy US tastes for a more normal looking car.
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Actually the Prius nameplate got too extremely tied to the image of a girly car that maybe they should use another nameplate for their next generation of hybrids if they're gonna try to sell it to a more conservative public.
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11-13-2013, 03:33 PM
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They don't need a new name.
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11-13-2013, 03:46 PM
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They don't need a new name.
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LOL
But it still looks like Elton John on steroids
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11-13-2013, 08:27 PM
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Don't get your hopes up. This is the new prius spotted in garbage bag camo.
I think it's been proven that aero cars can be stylish, appealing, and conventional looking. The Prius just chooses to be neither of them. I will say though that the Prius C looks great from every angle.
2015 Toyota Prius Spy Shots
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