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Old 09-09-2010, 12:18 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I don't need to reload because I use airguns....cheaper AND quieter. Not to mention more accurate.

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Old 09-09-2010, 01:39 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Air guns definitely have their place. They keep the free range neighborhood dogs educated about where not to drop their loads.
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Hahahaha, you guys are terrible.

Out here we can't use airsoft rifles for that sort of stuff: You can't shoot a bear with it, you'll just make it mad.

Going to the range tomorrow with the xd9, gonna start saving my brass although I doubt I'll be reloading a lot of 9mm as cheap as it is.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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I wern't talking about airsoft for the dogs, 17 cal lead. Works great if you wait till they are in mid drop and zing them in the behindus. Only one pump so as not to brake the skin but it will leave a welt in a tender area.

Also fun practicing for moose season, and defending the garden.
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I am taking about REAL airguns. Like FX, AIR FORCE, AIR ARMS, EVANIX, BENJAMIN, SUMATRA. Not those little bb gun toys. REAL airguns are used to hunt all kinds of critters, including buffalo and moose. Take a look at Airgun forum don't be afraid to ask questions on there. There are some good pictures of hunts.
Good airguns can do less than 1 MOA.
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Fired 200 rounds of 9mm yesterday, collected 175+ brass for later use. Not bad!

Was getting 5 inch grouping at 25 yards with the service model (4") xD9. Could use some improvement. I seem to shoot clay better, I'm usually land 9/10 of those.
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It takes a lot of engineering and precision machining to make that thing do 10 things at once.
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I thought the same thing.

On one hand, it's 'just a piece of metal' but that thing has to be an extremely well built piece of metal to pump out ten's of thousands of rounds reliably.
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If you only have one press make it a single stage IMO.

My shooting berm is made from paper that would otherwise need to be shredded. Once a year or so we dig it out and recycle the lead. We make a frame from wooden pallets. Once in a while we add a sheet of coroplast "used election sign" or another pallet.

Save your brass.

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