Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 04-29-2015, 07:23 PM   #1 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Blockhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: OH
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
Astro Cargovan Headlight Cover

Hello Aero modders,


First time posting, but have lurked for quite some time. Just trying to do some cheap mods on my work van.

Was thinking of covering the headlight opening with some clear acrylic (plexiglass) to round out that area, and smooth out the air flow. Will this be an improvement, or is this area just dead anyway?

This isn't my van, just a pic from the net, but I have the same style front end. I do have a lower extension on the front spoiler that is below anything hanging down from the body.


Thanks

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	astro.jpg
Views:	51
Size:	129.5 KB
ID:	17476  
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Blockhead For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-02-2015)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 04-29-2015, 08:08 PM   #2 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 148

VanDelay - '89 Ford Econoline E-150 XL
90 day: 15.93 mpg (US)

Old White Civic - '98 Honda Civic LX, AT
90 day: 33.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
http://ecomodder.com/forum/showthrea...asy-31787.html

Although on a vehicle where very aero composite headlights and more a aero grille are available as OE and should be plentiful and cheap as both aftermarket and used, I'd just swap those in.

http://static.cargurus.com/images/si...pic-25028.jpeg

Could probably get everything you need at a pick-n-pull for the same $ and less time as the fab job

Last edited by mwilliamshs; 04-29-2015 at 08:18 PM..
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to mwilliamshs For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-02-2015)
Old 04-29-2015, 08:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
EcoModding Lurker
 
Blockhead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: OH
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
I'm a regular at the local Pull-a-part, but just the headlight assembly's would be quite a bit more than 2 pieces of plastic. Then I'd have to mess with the wiring, and I hate electrical. The grills are actually the same, just chromed.

Heating, and bending the plastic is easy, plus I have some. I'm just looking for opinions on whether it would be beneficial is all.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2015, 09:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 148

VanDelay - '89 Ford Econoline E-150 XL
90 day: 15.93 mpg (US)

Old White Civic - '98 Honda Civic LX, AT
90 day: 33.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
The headlights, "Headlight-Composite, Regular" are $18.99 each at my local yard, part of a national chain. Lowe's has .080 acrylic in 24" x 18" sheets for $11.97. I'm sure it'd take that much excess to bridge the gaps, have mounting flanges, and accept the compound curves required. If you didn't buy a tool, hardware or glue for the project there's $14.04 in savings. Unlikely. But I get the headlights with all hardware and the bulbs etc at the yard for one money.

Just FYI the 5x7, 4x6, and 7" sealed beams share connectors with H4 and 9003 bulbs so no re-wiring to do.

My local yard is a Pick-n-Pull. I have their points rewards card thing ("toolbox" club, I think it's called) and get emails about their half-price days. That'd make the OE upgrade even cheaper than DIY covers.

No doubt it's an aero benefit. That's why GM did it.

Last edited by mwilliamshs; 04-29-2015 at 09:19 PM..
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2015, 10:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
You'll never be able to detect any improvement.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2015, 10:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 148

VanDelay - '89 Ford Econoline E-150 XL
90 day: 15.93 mpg (US)

Old White Civic - '98 Honda Civic LX, AT
90 day: 33.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
^atypical positivity^

Surely a good sign
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-29-2015, 11:02 PM   #7 (permalink)
(:
 
Frank Lee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762

Blue - '93 Ford Tempo
Last 3: 27.29 mpg (US)

F150 - '94 Ford F150 XLT 4x4
90 day: 18.5 mpg (US)

Sport Coupe - '92 Ford Tempo GL
Last 3: 69.62 mpg (US)

ShWing! - '82 honda gold wing Interstate
90 day: 33.65 mpg (US)

Moon Unit - '98 Mercury Sable LX Wagon
90 day: 21.24 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,555 Times in 2,218 Posts
Truth.
__________________


  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2015, 12:30 AM   #8 (permalink)
Not banned yet
 
deejaaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Texas Coast, close to Houston
Posts: 907

Blue - '03 Chevy S-10, LS
Thanks: 423
Thanked 265 Times in 212 Posts
it's been proven that the real benefit is at the rear.
__________________
2003 S-10, 2.2L, 5 speed, ext cab long bed.
So far: DRL delete, remove bed mount toolbox.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2015, 01:16 AM   #9 (permalink)
EcoModding Apprentice
 
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 148

VanDelay - '89 Ford Econoline E-150 XL
90 day: 15.93 mpg (US)

Old White Civic - '98 Honda Civic LX, AT
90 day: 33.18 mpg (US)
Thanks: 5
Thanked 50 Times in 43 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by deejaaa View Post
it's been proven that the real benefit is at the rear.
Well...
The greatest opportunity for improvement is at the rear but that doesn't mean front-end work is a waste of time or that benefit there is fake as opposed to "real".

70+ sqare inches of awful up front is worth improving IMO (5x7 headlight = 35 sq in x 2 = 70 plus all the gaps and edges nearby). Every bit of air you help get over/around the front is that much more opportunity for improvement in the rear.
  Reply With Quote
Old 04-30-2015, 02:11 PM   #10 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Sven7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Warren, MI
Posts: 2,456

Boo Radley - '65 Ford F100
90 day: 13.28 mpg (US)
Thanks: 782
Thanked 668 Times in 410 Posts
Yeah, you can improve the front, but unless you're bored there's no real reason to mess with the headlights. Work out your grille block and air dam first, cover the rear wheels, put wheel covers on the fronts and then start on a kammback. Since it has barn doors on the rear, mounting shouldn't be a huge issue.

You're going to see the greatest gains at the back, but from experience, it is the most difficult mod to do. Check out this for ideas...

__________________
He gave me a dollar. A blood-soaked dollar.
I cannot get the spot out but it's okay; It still works in the store
  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com