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As an aside, I noticed that on a particularly long coast with the engine off, the electric trip meter wasn't changing, so when I compared the trip readout with the Google Maps trip distance, it turned out that I'd gone with the engine off for over 10 miles!
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Which means it won't show up in your mileage, as it never happened according to the trip meter !
Do you switch the key back to position II after shutting down the engine ?
The trip / odometer should continue to work.
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05-25-2011, 08:25 PM
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as far as the need for power steering, it's not needed on most cars, but what most people fail to think about or mention is that when you shut off your angine and lose the PS pump you have to fight the PS system to rurn the wheel, which takes significantly more energy than if you had an actual manual rack-n-pinion steering set up, since you are the one pumping the fluid, instead of the engine.
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Which means it won't show up in your mileage, as it never happened according to the trip meter !
Do you switch the key back to position II after shutting down the engine ?
The trip / odometer should continue to work.
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Yes, I worked that out eventually, haha. I should clarify that my trip computer said 334.8 miles at the end of it, but I knew that I had lost some miles so I looked up my exact route, postcode to postcode, on Google Maps. This gave a distance of 85.9 miles each way, making two round trips 343.6 miles. Whilst I can't vouch for the absolute accuracy of Google Maps, my experience of driving the route previously validates its figures to the accuracy of within a mile or so. I also filled up at exactly the same pump each time to further reduce inaccuracies.
Using the trip computer, my fuel economy would have been 62.9mpg(Imp)/52.4(US), which is still a fantastic result, but I do think that the overall error is in my favour.
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05-25-2011, 09:38 PM
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Your success probably has more to do with coasting, both with engine on and off, than with acceleration. Taking your foot off the pedal and letting it roll is what gets you mpg. Acceleration control, while important, is not nearly as important as coasting.
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05-30-2011, 12:11 PM
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Had my first loss of power brakes today during EOC, scary stuff! Good thing that I keep my braking distances. My brother didn't much appreciate it though.
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I worked out I had 2 good stops with engine off when I was coasting in traffic. Then I lost count and tried one too many - panic
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Had I been on my own, I'd have happily bowled down that hill at whatever speed it happened to be. From now on, however, I'm keeping the clutch in with it in gear so that I can bump start at a moment's notice and get my brakes back. Also, don't bump start on a corner at 40mph in the wet unless you want to make things interesting.
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It's good practice to make a full downhill stop without the power boost at least once. That way you know just how hard you have to stand on the brakes when you run out of boost.
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It's good practice to make a full downhill stop without the power boost at least once. That way you know just how hard you have to stand on the brakes when you run out of boost.
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I've tried braking with the engine off in slightly downhill stop-and-go traffic - the boost was gone after stopping twice from less than 20mph.
The third time came as a surprise.
No more boost, and hardly any braking no matter how hard I stood on the brakes.
If the engine ever fails, I'm slamming on the brakes and keep my foot planted until it's stopped.
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In my Canyon, I can make three light stops, two medium stops, or one hard stop without any reduction in boost. I can still stop when the boost is gone, but doubt that I could squeak the tires even in an emergency.
This requires planning when I EOC into the parking lot at work - if I start EOC a little late, I brake once for a left turn, again turning into the lot, and then to stop.
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