Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Aerodynamics
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 01-28-2020, 01:36 PM   #1081 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by gumby79 View Post
It more of a legal thing many states have a 55 for 3axels OR towing.
Dark Aero beats the when towing but falls on its face on the 3 axel part ,unless the 3rd is off the ground 55 is the limmit.
ID, MT, UT, NV, AZ, NM, CO, WY, and KS over 55, some up to 85mph, is allowed when towing . Im shure there are others but I haven't been there, or don't recall.

Dreem Big Chisel Down To Reality
So I've considered making the vertical clear gap covers into sheet metal and moving the truck's rear license plate to the rear as well as adding in some rear back up lights to make the end of the rig completely legal as one vehicle. This would alleviate the need fer a trailer plate at the end of Dark Aero as I will have all the requirements fer the back end of the vehicle (rear license plate, bumper, turn signals, brake lights, back up lights, and marker lights). The towing axle and speed restrictions would be non-issues as the rig would be treated as one complete unit since they would not be able to see/inspect the attachment part of Dark Aero to the truck. Thus Dark Aero would be fully incorporated as an articulated boat tail into the truck.

__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to BamZipPow For This Useful Post:
aerohead (01-29-2020), Fat Charlie (01-28-2020), freebeard (01-28-2020)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 01-29-2020, 11:40 AM   #1082 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
legal

Quote:
Originally Posted by BamZipPow View Post
So I've considered making the vertical clear gap covers into sheet metal and moving the truck's rear license plate to the rear as well as adding in some rear back up lights to make the end of the rig completely legal as one vehicle. This would alleviate the need fer a trailer plate at the end of Dark Aero as I will have all the requirements fer the back end of the vehicle (rear license plate, bumper, turn signals, brake lights, back up lights, and marker lights). The towing axle and speed restrictions would be non-issues as the rig would be treated as one complete unit since they would not be able to see/inspect the attachment part of Dark Aero to the truck. Thus Dark Aero would be fully incorporated as an articulated boat tail into the truck.
I wonder if Texas would want the T-100 re-classified as a 5-wheeled vehicle?
If for any reason, you were pulled over,running your tag number through INTERPOL would show up as a pickup,and might open a challenging conversation on the side of the road.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (01-29-2020)
Old 12-12-2022, 01:05 PM   #1083 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
Dragging Bam's aero trailer back into the light

For those who are unacquainted with BamZipPow's one-wheel streamlined trailer, I'm dragging this thread back into the light, now that there's a nascent industry drying it's wings.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (03-18-2023)
Old 12-15-2022, 08:08 PM   #1084 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,882
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,684 Times in 1,502 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerohead View Post
If for any reason, you were pulled over,running your tag number through INTERPOL would show up as a pickup,and might open a challenging conversation on the side of the road.
Makes me wonder if anything similar would happen to those people from my country who own crew-cab trucks with a sedan-ish bodystyle, as those conversions used to be quite usual until some years ago.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to cRiPpLe_rOoStEr For This Useful Post:
aerohead (12-19-2022), BamZipPow (07-24-2024)
Old 01-16-2024, 09:23 AM   #1085 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: May 2019
Location: California
Posts: 513

2020 - '08 Chevy Tahoe H
Last 3: 18.4 mpg (US)

2021 - '08 Chevy Tahoe H
90 day: 17.08 mpg (US)

2022 - '08 chevy Tahoe LT
Last 3: 14.38 mpg (US)

2023 - '08 Chevy Tahoe
Last 3: 22.61 mpg (US)

2024 - '08 Chevy Tahoe
90 day: 22.35 mpg (US)
Thanks: 2
Thanked 105 Times in 96 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by wyatt View Post
Non-articulating trailers fall under a different category, and are treated as a part of the vehicle frame.
Also, even if it were articulated, some states do not require a tag for light trailers, and don't require trailer lights if you can see the lights on the vehicle.
anything extending out more then a two feet require it that is a non marked trailer at lest a red flag
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Tahoe_Hybrid For This Useful Post:
aerohead (01-16-2024), BamZipPow (01-17-2024)
Old 05-01-2024, 12:54 PM   #1086 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: South Africa
Posts: 423
Thanks: 135
Thanked 187 Times in 155 Posts
Erm...

If you want to make an articulated 1 wheeled trailer (no castor wheel) your 'tow hitch should be a universal cross as found in driveshafts on rear wheel drive cars.

Now you have the left n right and the up n down for the bumps etc, but to fall over the trailer has to 'twist' the car into falling over...


ie: You need 1 (one) of these crosses and the splined bit:
https://www.google.com/search?client...n5BAqSb2Q,st:0

See that splined bit: that splined pipe or the shaft bit it fits around is solidly mounted straight back behind center of the car.
Drill a hole through that for a pin and you have your quick disconnect.
The cross stays with the trailer.

NB that your main forces are now in the direction in which the splined bit used to work to negate such forces..!
Choose crosses with thickness in that plane or/and go big!

NB that this works for motorbikes and bicycles etc too...
('big!' : not so much. )
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Logic For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-02-2024)
Old 05-01-2024, 07:48 PM   #1087 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,549
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
BamZipPow's example is not articulated.

I've only seen one-wheel articulated trailers on motorcycles.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
aerohead (05-02-2024), BamZipPow (07-24-2024)
Old 05-02-2024, 12:36 PM   #1088 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
U-joint

Quote:
Originally Posted by Logic View Post
Erm...

If you want to make an articulated 1 wheeled trailer (no castor wheel) your 'tow hitch should be a universal cross as found in driveshafts on rear wheel drive cars.

Now you have the left n right and the up n down for the bumps etc, but to fall over the trailer has to 'twist' the car into falling over...


ie: You need 1 (one) of these crosses and the splined bit:
https://www.google.com/search?client...n5BAqSb2Q,st:0

See that splined bit: that splined pipe or the shaft bit it fits around is solidly mounted straight back behind center of the car.
Drill a hole through that for a pin and you have your quick disconnect.
The cross stays with the trailer.

NB that your main forces are now in the direction in which the splined bit used to work to negate such forces..!
Choose crosses with thickness in that plane or/and go big!

NB that this works for motorbikes and bicycles etc too...
('big!' : not so much. )
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm using a zero-rake, collapsed motorcycle front fork, with the front axle serving as the pivot-point for overall 'pitch' at the tow vehicle connection point.
This 'wider' width gives more 'triangulation' and less strain on the joint when the tow vehicle experiences 'roll.'
The head tube/ fork pivot provides for 'yaw.'
The sprung and dampened swing-arm allows the single vertical degree of freedom absorbing road shock.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (07-24-2024)
Old 05-02-2024, 12:45 PM   #1089 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
aerohead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Sanger,Texas,U.S.A.
Posts: 16,267
Thanks: 24,392
Thanked 7,360 Times in 4,760 Posts
' Bam's trailer '

Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
BamZipPow's example is not articulated.

I've only seen one-wheel articulated trailers on motorcycles.
Bam's trailer is hinged to a transverse spar, welded to the 2-inch 'male' pipe which engages the receiver hitch.
It articulates in 'pitch', dampened by duel air-springs.
__________________
Photobucket album: http://s1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj622/aerohead2/
  Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to aerohead For This Useful Post:
BamZipPow (07-24-2024), freebeard (05-02-2024)
Old 10-05-2024, 01:34 AM   #1090 (permalink)
T-100 Road Warrior
 
BamZipPow's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: The Woodlands, TX
Posts: 1,921

BZP T-100 (2010) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 24 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2011) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 23.66 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2009) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 19.01 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2012) - '98 Toyota T-100 ext cab - 3.4L/auto SR5
Last 3: 25.45 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2013) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 25.79 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2014) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.18 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2015) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 23.85 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2016) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
Last 3: 17.62 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2017) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.78 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2018) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5
90 day: 20.19 mpg (US)

BZP T-100 (2019) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

BZP T-100 (2020) - '98 Toyota T-100 SR5

2012 Scion iQ - '12 Scion iQ Base
Thanks: 3,502
Thanked 1,395 Times in 968 Posts
Send a message via ICQ to BamZipPow
Unhappy The end?

2024 is the end of Dark Aero...or is it?

Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	2024 Dark Aero end.jpg
Views:	16
Size:	91.0 KB
ID:	35205  
__________________
Dark Aero-The world's first aerodynamic single wheel boat tail!

  Reply With Quote
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com