Go Back   EcoModder Forum > EcoModding > Fossil Fuel Free
Register Now
 Register Now
 

Reply  Post New Thread
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 09-02-2022, 02:48 PM   #1 (permalink)
Righteous Imaginarian
 
Talos Woten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Aliquippa PA
Posts: 107

Champrius v3.2 - '09 Toyota Prius
90 day: 58.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 105 Times in 53 Posts
Thumbs up Canoo LV... This might be my next camper conversion

Howdy all!

I came across this and was intrigued:
https://www.canoo.com/canoo/


I particularly like the amazing visibility out of the vehicle. I currently use a Prius as my camper, but this would be a lot more spacious and picturesque. Most cargo vans have no windows... this seems like it would be great to wake up to the morning sun in.

It also seems to have a great "fuel economy" for a vehicle of its class. My best guesstimate is that it gets somewhere between 320 and 400 Wh/mile, which compared to the 250 Wh/mile of a Tesla is really good. The range is only 250 miles though; I might have to slap a lot of solar panels on it. ;-)

What do people think? Has anyone seen an EV that's "van-sized" that seems cool / has good specs? Most of the other vans I've seen are only for in city use, with ~100-ish miles of range, and clearly for mass cargo.

__________________
Currently building Champrius 4.0! Follow starting here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeeL6xyFp-k/

and ask in depth questions here:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post669277

The goal is 70 mpg this time around.

Stats from Champrius v3.2:
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Talos Woten For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-06-2022)
Alt Today
Popular topics

Other popular topics in this forum...

   
Old 09-02-2022, 02:58 PM   #2 (permalink)
Human Environmentalist
 
redpoint5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Oregon
Posts: 12,810

Acura TSX - '06 Acura TSX
90 day: 24.19 mpg (US)

Lafawnda - CBR600 - '01 Honda CBR600 F4i
90 day: 47.32 mpg (US)

Big Yeller - Dodge/Cummins - '98 Dodge Ram 2500 base
90 day: 21.82 mpg (US)

Chevy ZR-2 - '03 Chevrolet S10 ZR2
90 day: 17.14 mpg (US)

Model Y - '24 Tesla Y LR AWD

Pacifica Hybrid - '21 Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid
90 day: 43.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 4,327
Thanked 4,479 Times in 3,444 Posts
I've recently become more intrigued by something like this;



That said, I just like camping in a tent. Even better, a hammock and no tent.
__________________
Gas and Electric Vehicle Cost of Ownership Calculator







Give me absolute safety, or give me death!
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to redpoint5 For This Useful Post:
aerohead (09-06-2022)
Old 09-02-2022, 03:06 PM   #3 (permalink)
Righteous Imaginarian
 
Talos Woten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Aliquippa PA
Posts: 107

Champrius v3.2 - '09 Toyota Prius
90 day: 58.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 105 Times in 53 Posts
Wink

Quote:
Originally Posted by redpoint5 View Post
I've recently become more intrigued by something like this;

That said, I just like camping in a tent. Even better, a hammock and no tent.
I've lived out of virtually everything out there at this point. I used to have a Class A motorhome, which was quite spacious but a PITA to park, or even find parking for. And it got abysmal mileage, making gas a major expense on the trips.

Fifth wheels and detachable campers are a much better solution, because you can then use the truck/car to get around and have the camper as a home base. They are highly unstable driving, though, and not for the faint of heart on highways nor rough roads. They are also prime targets for thieves, who can easily monitor when everyone leaves.

I'm with you on being outside. A Greek friend of mine introduced me to sleeping on the roof, and going to sleep under the stars and waking up to the sun is just pure awesome. I guess over the years inclement weather has converted me more to glamping. While I love being outside, I hate being wet and gritty. Though a nice warm cleansing summer rain is always refreshing.
__________________
Currently building Champrius 4.0! Follow starting here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeeL6xyFp-k/

and ask in depth questions here:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post669277

The goal is 70 mpg this time around.

Stats from Champrius v3.2:
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2022, 03:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,702
Thanks: 8,147
Thanked 8,925 Times in 7,368 Posts
I like the family architecture of the Canoo models.


world-of-cars.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/canoo-electric-delivery-vehicle-reveal-date-set-for-december-17-small-pickup-again-teased-1.jpg

But for all-round visibility in a[n electrified] camper van, sometimes the old ways are best.



The Swedish military bubble top.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2022, 01:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
JSH
AKA - Jason
 
JSH's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,601

Adventure Seeker - '04 Chevy Astro - Campervan
90 day: 17.3 mpg (US)
Thanks: 325
Thanked 2,147 Times in 1,454 Posts
I think it is highly unlikely that Canoo will sell a single serial production vehicle. Personally I think the window for EV start-ups has closed now that every major auto manufacturer has started developing and selling EVs. The commercial space is hot - with plenty of options so why take a chance on buying an electric cargo van from a start-up?

https://fortune.com/2022/08/27/canoo...s-tony-aquila/

(Print Friendly will get you past the paywall)
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
redpoint5 (09-06-2022)
Old 09-05-2022, 06:06 PM   #6 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,702
Thanks: 8,147
Thanked 8,925 Times in 7,368 Posts
Youtube wanted me to see the video so I watched.

Still don't care enough to get past that paywall, but the probability is non-zero.

Assuming they 'deliver' () Walmart will retire them at some mileage. A 2nd hand Walmart van compared to a school bus or whatever would be a good choice.

Dos anyone remember the pop-up on Ford Econolines?


https://bringatrailer.com/wp-content...IMG_2833-1.jpg


The only one I've seen that looks like you could drive around with it popped up.

Like that electric pickup (I forget) there is an opportunity for a kennel below the windshield. With a window.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-06-2022, 01:51 AM   #7 (permalink)
Not Doug
 
Xist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240

Chorizo - '00 Honda Civic HX, baby! :D
90 day: 35.35 mpg (US)

Mid-Life Crisis Fighter - '99 Honda Accord LX
90 day: 34.2 mpg (US)

Gramps - '04 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 35.39 mpg (US)

Don't hit me bro - '05 Toyota Camry LE
90 day: 30.49 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
For some reason I have camped very little since leaving the Army, but high-lows seem pretty cool.

I just want to know what is to stop my stinker brother from lowering it while I am inside.
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-15-2022, 05:11 AM   #8 (permalink)
Master EcoModder
 
freebeard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,702
Thanks: 8,147
Thanked 8,925 Times in 7,368 Posts
The discussion leads off with Bucky Fuller's Dymaxion Transport and does a deep dive in the minivan interior. Which is awesome.

At 29:29 they show a military truck body with an eight foot bed.
__________________
.
.
Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster

____________________
.
.
Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to freebeard For This Useful Post:
Talos Woten (12-19-2022)
Old 12-15-2022, 07:30 PM   #9 (permalink)
It's all about Diesel
 
cRiPpLe_rOoStEr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,923
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,695 Times in 1,513 Posts
If I ever get an electric campervan, most likely I would be concerned about the towing capability than range-anxiety
  Reply With Quote
Old 12-19-2022, 04:58 PM   #10 (permalink)
Righteous Imaginarian
 
Talos Woten's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2022
Location: Aliquippa PA
Posts: 107

Champrius v3.2 - '09 Toyota Prius
90 day: 58.73 mpg (US)
Thanks: 7
Thanked 105 Times in 53 Posts
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard View Post
The discussion leads off with Bucky Fuller's Dymaxion Transport and does a deep dive in the minivan interior. Which is awesome.

At 29:29 they show a military truck body with an eight foot bed.
Thanks a bunch, freebeard! That was a great watch. I've always respected Sandy's opinion on things and have followed his Tesla teardowns with interest. The fact that he was impressed with the Canoo increases my desire to get one. The *real* question is when they'll sell direct to consumers... it's looking years off at this point.

__________________
Currently building Champrius 4.0! Follow starting here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CeeL6xyFp-k/

and ask in depth questions here:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...tml#post669277

The goal is 70 mpg this time around.

Stats from Champrius v3.2:
  Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Talos Woten For This Useful Post:
freebeard (12-19-2022)
Reply  Post New Thread






Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.5.2
All content copyright EcoModder.com