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Old 08-26-2009, 10:07 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Right. Cities are getting smaller.

As bad or worse?

Is petrol use going up or down? Yes I know the short term blip is down- that's due to the economy.

Is electricity use going up or down?

How's that natural resource situation?

How about open space and quiet? Is that not a component of quality of life? Evidently not.
Cities can get smaller, petrol use was going down before the economy fell on it's face, electricity is down although that follows the economy pertty good, natural resources are still there for the most part, and don't forget about the horrors of less piece and quiet! It's not like people can move or anything...

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Old 08-26-2009, 10:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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So how exactly do I get a rebate on a new freezer? I'm sure mine isn't very efficient, but there is way too much milk in there to just not use it... and we have no other place to keep it frozen.
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Cities can get smaller, petrol use was going down before the economy fell on it's face, electricity is down although that follows the economy pertty good, natural resources are still there for the most part, and don't forget about the horrors of less piece and quiet! It's not like people can move or anything...
I'm just gonna let that one twist in the wind for all to see.
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Electricity consumption in Minnesota has nearly doubled since 1980, according to data from the state's department of commerce. Wisconsin has seen its energy use grow 2 percent annually during the past decade; in 2005, residential energy use increased 3 percent, while commercial use grew more than 5 percent. South Dakota's energy demand and use are projected to grow 1-2 percent annually during the next 10-15 years. And in North Dakota, electricity consumption increased 3 percent annually from 1980 to 2005.

Our electricity demand has risen in proportion both to the growing number of electronic items and appliances we depend on and to the increasing size of our homes. For example, in 2007, the average household had 25 consumer electronic products, such as computers, DVD players, video game consoles, cordless phones, digital cameras and high-definition televisions; in 1975, the average household had less than two (Consumer Electronics Association). The average single-family home in the Midwest is nearly 45 percent larger today than it was in 1980 (2008 Buildings Energy Data Book).
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Lets see...

Desktop, Laptop, 4 XBoxen(Original) XBOX 360, 37" TV, Wii, DVD player, Media Center PC (doesn't work), Cable box, Cable modem, wireless router, stereo system... I think that covers it.

I have lots of crap... and I don't have 25 CE products. Unless you count freezers and stuff like that, but I still don't have 25...

Twizzlers make great straws, as well.
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Those minisodas need to be more like kaliforniastan.
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I know! Wish they all could be kalifernia girlz
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It depends on location, a lot! But yeah... *droolz*
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Reducing the size of all cars in a city by 2/3rds would help, but would just cause other problems/ construction. And it isn't very practical. And far from realistic. But I guess it's a nice thought for traffic to be cut down by 2/3rds.

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