Chevy Bolt EV - 238 Mile Range $30K after incentives

[vskid3]

Originally Posted by NeilBlanchard

The new e-Golf and the Ioniq Electric have ~125 mile ranges, and the new i3 is ~114 miles - so that also puts market pressure on the Bolt EV.

Is it really, though? For me, 200-250 mile range is a necessity because I would like to have just one car. I live in northern Utah. Going down to SLC is about 100 miles one way; visiting my parents in Idaho is about 160 miles one way. 125 miles vs ~80 miles for an older Leaf helps with the SLC trips (though I'd need to find a place to charge before going home), but with either I'd be adding at least an hour or two when visiting my parents (if I could even find a charger). A Bolt could do the SLC trip without charging and I could make it to my parents'.

For a household with 2+ cars, though, that extra 40 miles of range could make an EV a more viable option for a second car. I can definitely see <100 mile range EVs taking a value hit when more of the new options have >100 mile range, if only because 100 is getting into triple digits.

[NeilBlanchard]

I am just saying in general, having 5 other longer range EV's on the market, will help lower the price of the Bolt EV.

[Piotrsko]

I dunno. I think they are just fleet economy improvers to get past the CARB requirements. I really dont see GM making 500 K E-vehicles a year

[NeilBlanchard]

We'll see what they do. GM is a big company with a lot of internal dynamics. But, they did build the Bolt EV from concept to production in ~23 months.

And they have spoken about several additional models on the same platform, and additional platforms, too.

[ME_Andy]

Originally Posted by vskid3

For a household with 2+ cars, though, that extra 40 miles of range could make an EV a more viable option for a second car.

I can't think of too many cases where a SECOND vehicle needs >80 miles range. If so, that family is doing a ton of driving.

[NeilBlanchard]

Here's a report written by the owner, about owning 2 Bolt EV's and eliminating gasoline use:

This family has two Chevy Bolt EV electric cars, uses no gas at all



They use only Level 1 (120V) charging at home, and one is an LT and the other is a Premier model. Very interesting reading.

[NeilBlanchard]

Another review of the Bolt EV:

Chevrolet Bolt Described As "Electric All-Arounder" By Slash Gear

[JSH]

Originally Posted by Piotrsko

I dunno. I think they are just fleet economy improvers to get past the CARB requirements. I really dont see GM making 500 K E-vehicles a year

There is absolutely no reason to make a 240 mile EV on an unique platform if the goal is to just make a CARB compliance car. GM already did that with the Spark EV. The Bolt is a genuine attempt to make a good EV (and get ahead of their competition in the shift to EVs)

I don't see GM making 500K EVs next year but I expect they will be making more than 500K per year 10 years from now. (GM makes 10 million vehicles per year so 500K would only be 5% EV market share)

[redpoint5]

What are your best guesstimates of when the 200 mile Leaf and Tesla 3 are available for sale?

I've got a company provided car (Dodge Grand Caravan) that is nearing the end of service and needs to be replaced. I've considered an EV, but I will need something with at least 200 miles range to service my area.

[NeilBlanchard]

Originally Posted by redpoint5

What are your best guesstimates of when the 200 mile Leaf and Tesla 3 are available for sale?

I think we will see the new Leaf, and get the specs in September or so. And it should be on sale a little while after that.

We should see the finalized Model 3 in a month or so, and they are hoping to start production in July. They are aiming to produce about 100K Model 3's this year, and if they manage that and they achieve their intended ramp up, they will fulfill all the reservations about a year after that?

So, the Leaf will be here at least a year before the Model 3.