09-17-2024, 02:42 AM
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So it has a normally open throttle valve just to charge vacuum powered ancillaries during overrun and braking/ (free power)
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AFAIK the brake booster is the only vacuum-powered device on most (if not all) modern cars.
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I can see it getting hydraulic pressure to actuate, from the same pump that actuates the VVT, but, at a guess I'd say there's a torque sensor or 2 in the drive-train somewhere that picks up torque coming from the wheels and/or flywheel during overrun..?
Probably a braking sensor, involved in decisions to..?
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I don't know how the electro-hydraulic actuators of the intake valves work, but the throttle plate is entirely electronically-controlled and actuated.
And most newer cars have electronic throttle pedals, regardless if gassers or Diesels.
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10-14-2024, 02:01 PM
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A few years ago BMW did a study that indicated 3/4 throttle acceleration was optimal. Also note that slow acceleration will affect traffic flow and the traffic signal operation algorithm.
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10-15-2024, 02:14 PM
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A few years ago BMW did a study that indicated 3/4 throttle acceleration was optimal. Also note that slow acceleration will affect traffic flow and the traffic signal operation algorithm.
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Sounds close to the 80% load I heard about a while ago.
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10-17-2024, 02:39 AM
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Having learned to drive in a car without a tach, maybe relying on some random arbitrary pedal-based measure could be simpler, yet sometimes it doesn't work in real-life driving. I remember so many times hitting the pedal to the floor while the Opel Corsa B struggled to keep RPM before I had to shift to a lower gear...
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10-27-2024, 08:41 PM
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#2) Go up the initial hill in 1st gear all the way or #3) Try to go up in 2nd as soon as as possible with my foot to the floor. (It's a moderate climate, so "cold" engine is just a relative term.)
IMHO, #2 would be best, but not with the engine screaming in 1st. #3, foot to the floor is never good. Warm up idle creates negative MPG and should not be used.
#3) option of leisurely acceleration with lower load through all the gears until reaching 4th or 5th would use the most fuel.
IMHO, #3 is the way to go, it will not use the most fuel.
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10-27-2024, 08:49 PM
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#2) Go up the initial hill in 1st gear all the way or #3) Try to go up in 2nd as soon as as possible with my foot to the floor. (It's a moderate climate, so "cold" engine is just a relative term.)
IMHO, #2 would be best, but not with the engine screaming in 1st. #3, foot to the floor is never good. Warm up idle creates negative MPG and should not be used.
#3) option of leisurely acceleration with lower load through all the gears until reaching 4th or 5th would use the most fuel.
IMHO, #3 is the way to go, it will not use the most fuel.
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10-30-2024, 02:07 AM
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Sure the slope of the hill would dictate the correct gear to start driving. And maybe with some clutch kicks as a last-resort attempt to prevent the engine from stalling while trying to climb with a taller gear, not only fuel consumption would increase but also wear and tear.
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