07-15-2009, 02:32 PM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Administrator
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Germantown, WI
Posts: 11,203
Thanks: 2,501
Thanked 2,589 Times in 1,555 Posts
|
Cool bike generator idea
You rent a free bike to travel. The bike has a generator on it. Once you are done, you plug the bike in and the power you generated gives you credit toward a bus ticket.
Is it practical? Possibly in the right places. Still, it is a very cool idea.
Inhabitat » Hybrid Squared: Ingenious Energy-Generating Bike Rental System
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 11:44 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Tallmadge, OH
Posts: 313
Thanks: 6
Thanked 26 Times in 21 Posts
|
I'm no electronics genius.....but I don't see it working out too well.
The people that use these heavy bikes probably aren't giong to be putting out much wattage to begin with and since nothing is 100 percent, there will be loss.
The ultra capacitor will be drained to charge a battery, and there will be more loss.
The battery will power the motor, drive --more loss. Will the net gain be worth the cost of a very special bike, ultra capacitor, and all of the other associated hardware? I'm not seeing it.
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 12:59 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
My Goal: 35 MPG All Day
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 684
Thanks: 39
Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts
|
Sound pretty cool to me, I wish that we could have bicycles that gather electricity when we drive it and at the end of the drive we can hook it up to our house and it goes back to the electrical company and our bill goes down, even if it was only by some change, it would still be awesome.
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 02:41 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
aero guerrilla
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,755
Thanks: 1,343
Thanked 752 Times in 477 Posts
|
I'm with bikin'Ed, nothing is for free. I don't see people putting in extra effort just to ride around. Much more efficient would be to have a nice light bike for riding, and a dedicated generator at home. Pedal when you're watching television, slow down and the TV shuts off. Much simpler, no heavy bikes, ultracaps, large losses in efficiency, etc.
__________________
e·co·mod·ding: the art of turning vehicles into what they should be
What matters is where you're going, not how fast.
"... we humans tend to screw up everything that's good enough as it is...or everything that we're attracted to, we love to go and defile it." - Chris Cornell
[Old] Piwoslaw's Peugeot 307sw modding thread
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 02:48 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
My Goal: 35 MPG All Day
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 684
Thanks: 39
Thanked 36 Times in 25 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Piwoslaw
I'm with bikin'Ed, nothing is for free. I don't see people putting in extra effort just to ride around. Much more efficient would be to have a nice light bike for riding, and a dedicated generator at home. Pedal when you're watching television, slow down and the TV shuts off. Much simpler, no heavy bikes, ultracaps, large losses in efficiency, etc.
|
So you could actually power a tv with a generator bike? I think that would be awesome. I wish all tvs were like that, then America would be less fat (wanna watch "Survivor"? then I guess your going to be burning off that Twinky And I'm American too so don't think I'm hating or anything
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 03:11 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
aero guerrilla
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Warsaw, Poland
Posts: 3,755
Thanks: 1,343
Thanked 752 Times in 477 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by RandomFact314
So you could actually power a tv with a generator bike? I think that would be awesome.
|
Oh, yeah. A human can put out something like 200W and more, but can keep a steady output of around 50W-100W (I hope I got the numbers right). Our old 27" tube used 60W-75W, the new 37" LCD is much more of a hog and needs 170W to be happy. But I saw a 40-something" OLED last week that was supposed to use only 100W. A laptop with a 15"-17" LCD takes up only 15W-40W and can be used as a TV.
A bike generator is one of my planned projects if and when I get a small grid intertie inverter. Ah, the possibilities...
__________________
e·co·mod·ding: the art of turning vehicles into what they should be
What matters is where you're going, not how fast.
"... we humans tend to screw up everything that's good enough as it is...or everything that we're attracted to, we love to go and defile it." - Chris Cornell
[Old] Piwoslaw's Peugeot 307sw modding thread
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 03:19 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Moderate your Moderation.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919
Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi 90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
|
The average, fit, adult rider can produce only 75 watts or 1/10hp when
cycling at a continuous 12mph.
From: Human Powered
The entire human body doesn't generate more than 1.5 HP at peak load, IIRC.
I think this is the basis for PA's moped law, actually. (If it produces more than 1.5HP, has more than 50CC, or goes faster than 25MPH) The first and last are upper limits of human ability.
EDIT: Insert the word "average" between "entire" and "human".
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"
Last edited by Christ; 07-16-2009 at 03:27 PM..
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 04:18 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
(:
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: up north
Posts: 12,762
Thanks: 1,585
Thanked 3,556 Times in 2,218 Posts
|
People AVOID exertion out in the world. I see the administrative and overhead costs far exceeding the value of whatever energy might be produced (teensy amount).
However, maybe spas and health clubs could become generators. People PAY to bust their humps there... once they're inside.
Last edited by Frank Lee; 07-16-2009 at 04:51 PM..
|
|
|
07-16-2009, 04:29 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
Moderate your Moderation.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Troy, Pa.
Posts: 8,919
Pasta - '96 Volkswagen Passat TDi 90 day: 45.22 mpg (US)
Thanks: 1,369
Thanked 430 Times in 353 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frank Lee
People AVOID exertion out in the world. I see the administrative and overhead costs far exceeding the value of whatever energy might be produced (teensy amount).
However, maybe spas and health clubs could become generators. People PAY to bust their humps there... once they're inside.
|
This idea, I like. I've tossed it around a few times, as well, but never had any takers. Apparently, I haven't explained it in a way that made it simple to implement, I guess.
All that wasted energy in clubs and spas... we could probably power small cities with it.
__________________
"¿ʞɐǝɹɟ ɐ ǝɹ,noʎ uǝɥʍ 'ʇı ʇ,usı 'ʎlǝuol s,ʇı"
|
|
|
|