Do you think/feel Christmas & New Year as stupid???
 

I use to say Merry Christmas in web, in some comunities I use, as a form of courtesy and good wishes.

But let's put courtesy and good wishes by side for a minute. Do you think such dates are stupid, fake, worthless. Just time people eat nd drink forcing thenselves to believe things will be better and faking they like a huge family.

I have have a sensation of worthless in such dates and traditions?
What do you think about?

Don't over-analyze a festivity!

Does it need to be sensible?
Logical, oh responsible, practical?
Would you show me a world where I could be so dependable
Oh clinical, oh intellectual, cynical?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQfjIw3mivc

Christmas is a golden opportunity to celebrate life with your loved ones. And if you can bring yourself to wishing well upon those you don't really know or like, then the world becomes a better place for it.

Merry Christmas, everybody! :)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HX55AzGku5Y


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Never seemed fake to me. We enjoy the company of everyone we see. Is it pointless? Sure, everything is pointless; blame entropy. Pointlessness is not a sufficient reason to not be cheerful though.

Merry Christmas.

Well, Christmas keeps me in a job, so I say god bless it.

Yes, it's a load of codswallop. Particularly the mass commercialism that is the norm now.

OTOH, if it wasn't for annual excuses like this, I'd probably never find an excuse to be social and spoil loved ones. Makes things easier in that aspect.

Well, people do Festivus the entire year, but not face to face, more like talking on back. And in Christmas everyone fake they love everybody.
They also workship money and greed the entire year, to fake faith in Jesus birthday.

Some people say Santa Claus was blue until Coca Cola turn it red as a marketing plan.

All Darc. Are you against all types of holidays? If not, what would your preference be for a holiday?
JJ

He's always been red and white. Coca-Cola influenced the popular image of Santa Claus, but only by embellishment.

I work for a church but am an atheist; Christmas is as much a secular holiday as a religious one, and I don't begrudge anyone their celebrations. This is the one day a year where just about everything stops, and I enjoy that. It would be nicer if it happened without all the rampant commercialism and needless consumption beforehand, but that won't happen.

I'm not against holiday. I just found Christmas a fake thing.

I use to say Merry Christmas really wishing good to people on web, but as a fomality (despite really wish good).

Maybe it's because we have no snow on dezembrer in tropical clime countries like Brazil, so I didn't got the Christmas flu (neural infection that affects the logic system in the brain). :p

Originally Santa Claus had no ties with Christmas.
Santa Claus was based on the Dutch Sinterklaas (Saint Nicholas) who was a Christian replacement for the pagan tradition of Wodan and his helpers (black raven).

Anyway, Christmas is part of Western culture. Christian faith and culture are intertwined; our whole thought frame is modeled on Christian stories and traditions. Losing faith does not rip the ties of culture away.

That makes sense, but anyway, I rarely spoil anyone other than my dog.

Yes, "Christmas-December 25" is a fake date designed to cover the "Feast Of Saturnalia" with a Christian holiday, as was done with the Pagan holiday marking the beginning of Spring, Ôstara, 21 / 25 March, named after the Goddess of
the resurrection of crops and animal life.

The New Year, should, by rights, begin on the Winter Solstice, Around December 21/22, as this natural occurrence marks the return of the Sun, and the lengthening of the hours of sunlight, but I have no problem starting it on the first of the next month.

I do wish all a happy solstice!

I hear the proper formulation is Blessed Solstice, so.... Blessed Solstice and Merry Christmas.

I'm too reclusive to be affected by the comings and goings of holidays, but I do like the music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P9xxJ4V7no

Happy ChanaChrismaKwanzicas, and what other made up holidays you may celebrate

Elvis and some digital edition wishes a Merry Christmas for you :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KK6sMo8NBY


Nice...

But I would prefer this version :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyK_GbGuxyA

More realist, specialy for women

We've gone off-topic from holidays?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqURBTpvh0A

vs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1VHOy0NCOY

Well, a Happy New Yeares for you all.

Hope this years get greener...

https://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/new-...-125885128.jpg

Happy New Years freebeard, when we get to it...

I slept through the New Year's Eve countdown. Upside: no resolutions to fail at.

How can it be the first day of the year if it's already Tuesday? Hmmmmmmm....

One thing that is extremely bothersome to me is when someone tries to push me to do a new-year resolution. I think this is the most pointless BS of the season, well, maybe as pointless as pretending to not having anything against some annoying family members to avoid a fight on a Christmas dinner...

I can't admire things like family (with also relatives), since they all come from the same sick and stupid irrational society, and so most will be similar to.
What unites family? DNA ? I don't think so... Some connection from reunions ? Maybe... But I presume most it's the law, since law, impose rules and obligations, and of course money.

If you have kids you'll find out how strong family ties really are. If you have grandchildren even more so.
It is not about a date, or the special properties of the event, but just a good reason or if you want excuse for coming together again.

That's close family, close relatives. And if somone have a family with some health relations. But a lot of families today are horrible even for close relatives.

Forgive my too pessimist remarks earlier. If your family is very nice it's good for you. But one question always rise : Do people really need excuses? Maybe some do need, do you agree?

Redpoint could came here to say some uncle Jordan's quotes about family disintegration in modern times. :D

In the end you're right. The concepts of a moral obligation with relatives, enforced by law and requiring some money expenses if need arises, are now the strongest family ties. I bet many families would be dismantled if it wasn't all about that...

Children are chattel. They're the property of the parent (or guardian) until granted personhood by state fiat at whatever age obtains in that jurisdiction.

...for better or worse. Nobody minds good parenting, but how do you counter bad parenting without trampling the right of the bad parent to raise the little proto-human as they see fit?

Too much interference and you risk dis-incentivising parenthood.

When I look around most people, society, and even some relatives, I feel like watching some National Geographic documentary about some tribe, some primitive people.
No kidding... that's how I feel.

Same here. Sometimes I feel like I'm surrounded by exotic animals who escaped from a zoo...

Interesting...
Do you comment such thing with general people, friends or relatives, around you, or are you afraid they call you crazy, blame you, or get agressive towards you ?

The two of you aren't promoting Brazil very well.

Well, on Brazil a lot of us have a old tradition of demoralize our own country.
And honestly... nearly everything here sucks.
Brazil it's rich in potential, resources, but our culture it's like designed to lead to failure.

For you from USA may be difficult to understand, since americans use USA flag even as decoration for cakes and underwear, and people to eot a good impression among other use quotes like "God bless america".

But I recognize USA people have dark sides. Religion and patriotic fanatism, alienation, consumism, contradictory morality. With exception of patriotism brazilians have these too.

Hey, Redpoint, where are you?

Like I said, despite critics I recognize uncle Jordan have very good quotes, like this one :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ukKf4vi6g

With this video many will discover their families are not their friends !!!
Jordan forgot about "Fakebook", where suposed friends are just deletable people, despite some listeniong and some elogies they do, since there are a lot of fake things in such social net.

If cretin teachers on school & High School could teach such thing, maybe this generation could be less cretin.
Maybe the 80's films and 90's have fault, fault for glamurise cretin friendship as something cool.

School teachs the contrary, specially when don't punish cretin people and labels the victms as difficult to socialise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lY4Q3qBIsP0

This sounds hopeful; Brazil have their own Trump, and he's starting with the educational system.

That sign-language interpreter sure is enthusiastic.

edit:
And a Melania-grade First Lady?

OMFG. Where's the "/s"?

Yeah, our Trump. He said that would hit on face any gay couple kissing in public space, and shout loud and angry to a female reporter to shut-up just because she made a remark about our dictatorship era (60's to 80's). He also always voted in favor of higher salaries to congresman when he was a congresman, and as congresman he never did nothing in 20 years. Detail, Brazil per capta income it's way lower than USA, but our congressman earn more than USA congressman.
Our judges also earn more than USA or european judges, but usuallly are on the side of powerfull corrupt people. Many are corrupt too. So yes, Brazil it's a sh...thole !!!

But unlike Trump he don't understand economy. He was elected because people here was extreme angry with the dumbsh..t left wing legacy of desgrace, that stolen hundred billions. He was elected talking mainly about "anatomic cavities" that the left promoted (sexual erotism targeting youth and kids). He target old style people.
He didn't said to catch women by the puz...y as Trump said, but he said that when young did sex with chicken.
There are already suspect things connected to accounts related to his campain and one related to his son's public employe. And is suspect to hire fake news services to help win ellection, like Trump about the russians.

Yes, our Trump. Another cretin... But our left it's as cretin or even more.

The sign-language interpreter is his wife. She is a evangelic member of a chuch whose pastor it's a thief who just take money from poor to get rich, mililonaire, and he promotes prejudice. He once said to people without job and living by help (in a house of someone for help) to give any money that had and send to hin. A typical sociopath evangelic pastor.

And it's funny "how Jesus loves to kill people", since most people here who talk about moralism and Jesus, religion and famility, are the ones who say that street criminals need to be executed. I'm not saying that leftwing approach it's ok, or that criminals need to be very well treated. But that politic of shoot criminals to dead intentionally it's not like Jesus . I'm also not saying that I approve Jesus politics. I'm just poointing the hypocrisy.
I'm in favor of death penality in some cases. But I'm not Jesus or following christanism.
Bolsonaro is also friend and ally of a religion politic (Marcus Feliciano) that once said black people were created by demons.

I'm not saying Bolsonaro is worse than the brazilian left. Our left destroyed the economy and destroyed our youth generation and our university generation. It was suposed to be against dictatorship, but they hosted terrorists, honored north Corea flag, forgave a lot of dictatorship's debts with Brazil, had sympath with islam fundamentalist and ignored muslim women activists who denunce islan atrocities against women. Ironicly they (brazilian leftwing) are in favor of radical toxic feminsm. Funny, isn't it???

I don't believe in my species. Indeed I don't even aprove such species. Always repeating sh..t all over the history, again, again and again...

[/s] for strikethrough, or sarcasm? If it's the latter, which of the three paragraphs.

What do I need to understand about Bonasaro? Never mind, I think I see what you mean.

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...story,amp.html

Happy couple. :)

edit: I'm still laughing at that picture, don't know why.

What Freud or uncle Jordan would say about this ???

If somone have a hot chick wife, some gal a lot of man would like to "..." , the image of a male candidate or a politician gets better because the primitive side of the people's brain will see such politic a alpha-man, leader, the guy who got the hotie gal that many man didn't get, so the primitive side of the brain it's telling he is a good leader. Just like a bunch of wolfs thinks.

https://www.trbimg.com/img-5c2d2621/.../1400/1400x788

And don't forget about Jesus... Guns, sex, male alpha, hotie girl and Jesus, the "Jesus catchup" to "make any bad food taste".

Freebird. I add more information on my previous post. Not sure if you would read again. I forgot to say that he was arrested by our militars because he once tried to put a bomb in a military facility, as a protest with a decision he didn't agreed, despite he was already a militar back then.

I use to say that the last bad thing our sh...t left wing did was to ellect Jair Bolsonaro, since he was ellected indirectly by the left wing, as people got revolted with the left's disaster madness and ellect hin in protest or just to try to destroy the left.