07-05-2020, 12:54 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
|
Dodge 700 minitruck
What was the last too-small-for-the-U.S.-truck that we discussed? Is this the right place?
I apologize, I have the memory of... one of those orange fish...
I was trying to figure out Kanye West's 2020 Presidential platform and I ran across this: https://carbuzz.com/news/this-is-the...want-in-the-us
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
07-05-2020, 11:31 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Somewhat crazed
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,420
Thanks: 540
Thanked 1,205 Times in 1,063 Posts
|
Subaru brat?? Useless collection of metal parts.
|
|
|
07-05-2020, 11:42 AM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
|
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
|
|
|
07-05-2020, 03:58 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Not Doug
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Show Low, AZ
Posts: 12,240
Thanks: 7,254
Thanked 2,233 Times in 1,723 Posts
|
Saveiro! Get it right!
I saw the notification for the 700 when I was reading about Mr. West.
The first Jalopnik result definitely is not something that I read before. It is written by some guy named DeMuro who seems to believe that he is clever. People always think that small trucks would be successful:
Quote:
This is, of course, neglecting to remember the dozens of small truck failures over the years, like the GMC Sonoma, and the Chevrolet S-10, and the Ford Ranger, and the Mazda B-Series, and the Dodge Dakota, and the Suzuki Equator, and the Mitsubishi Raider, all of which had their time to shine and then were cancelled in the end because the only person buying them was the fleet manager for the U.S. Forest Service.
|
Do the people that want small trucks actually buy them when they are available?
Quote:
PROBLEM NUMBER ONE: Any automaker trying to sell a small truck in America would have to build it in America. This is due to something called the Chicken Tax, which is a tax created by chickens when they controlled the House and the Senate back during the fowl years of the late 1970s.
|
Is that close enough?
Quote:
PROBLEM NUMBER TWO: Foreign countries like small trucks way more than we do. If you visit Europe, or Asia, or Latin America, you’ll see compact trucks you’ve never heard of running around everywhere. The Mitsubishi L-Series. The Ford Ranger. There’s even something called the Volkswagen Amarok, which looks like it would be a pretty competitive little pickup, until you have to remove the entire front end to change the timing belt.
|
Quote:
[T]he 2016 Chevrolet Colorado, which is the last small truck General Motors will ever make, starts at $24,900 with a V6 engine and an automatic transmission. Meanwhile, the larger Chevrolet Silverado starts at $27,400, also with a V6 engine and an automatic transmission. In other words: only $2,500 separates the puny, pathetic, tiny “little truck” you’ll get laughed at for driving in Mississippi from the big, bold, brawny, full-size man’s truck that’ll give you all the street cred you could possibly want.
|
There is a great deal of room for improvement for both:
For any Philistines, this is the Amarok:
I need to ask, how hard did those companies try to sell those pickups? Do automakers ever try diligently to sell small vehicles with small profit margins?
Doug's post: https://jalopnik.com/is-ford-bringin...u-s-1828010259
We discussed the Ford Courier.
freebeard, both you and Crippled Rooster commented on that one:
https://ecomodder.com/forum/showthre...ier-38217.html
The second Jalopnik result mentioned the Courier, which I found here.
I am going to play games now--or discuss heater cores. That is just as fun, right?
Right?
__________________
"Oh if you use math, reason, and logic you will be hated."--OilPan4
|
|
|
07-05-2020, 05:06 PM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,690
Thanks: 8,143
Thanked 8,923 Times in 7,366 Posts
|
Quote:
freebeard, both you and Crippled Rooster commented on that one:
|
I live in the moment.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
07-05-2020, 10:42 PM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
It's all about Diesel
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,913
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,694 Times in 1,512 Posts
|
I haven't seen this generation of the Fiat Strada/RAM 700 on the wild yet. Now it comes with the 1.4L Fire and the 1.3L GSE "Firefly" engines. It's not likely to feature any larger engine in order to not get too close to the Fiat Toro/RAM 1000 which has the E.torQ 1.8L engine as standard (and in some export markets the only one available).
|
|
|
07-08-2020, 10:28 AM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
AKA - Jason
Join Date: May 2009
Location: PDX
Posts: 3,601
Thanks: 325
Thanked 2,147 Times in 1,454 Posts
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to JSH For This Useful Post:
|
|
07-08-2020, 01:06 PM
|
#9 (permalink)
|
home of the odd vehicles
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Somewhere in WI
Posts: 3,891
Thanks: 506
Thanked 867 Times in 654 Posts
|
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to rmay635703 For This Useful Post:
|
|
07-08-2020, 11:20 PM
|
#10 (permalink)
|
It's all about Diesel
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Porto Alegre, Rio Grande do Sul, Brazil
Posts: 12,913
Thanks: 0
Thanked 1,694 Times in 1,512 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by JSH
2021 Hyundai Santa Cruz
|
It's more likely to be closer in size to the Fiat Toro/RAM 1000 than to the Fiat Strada/RAM 700.
|
|
|
|