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Old 09-25-2015, 04:17 PM   #11 (permalink)
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EPA numbers get the "first-impression" interest, the "real-road" numbers get the owner's interest.

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Old 09-25-2015, 06:24 PM   #12 (permalink)
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How many Prius beaters did not seem to try hard enough? What was Ford's?

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EPA numbers get the "first-impression" interest, the "real-road" numbers get the owner's interest.
Isn't that one of the excuses that people have for purchasing automatic transmissions?
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Old 09-25-2015, 07:14 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Few (very few) prospective Hybrid buyers actually make 'test drives' long enough to truly achieve/equal the EPA window sticker mpg values. It is the owners who actually *know/learned* how to drive the Hybrid in such a manner (coasting, when & not to use cruise-control, anticipating traffic flow & surge...and stop lights, etc.) as to easily and repeatedly exceed those EPA numbers.
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Considering the reputation of each company, the Hyundai would need to be at least $5k cheaper for me to consider it a comp.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:17 PM   #15 (permalink)
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...true, but a LOT of people will "bite" onto the "100K-mile" Warranty that Hyundai is so fond of flaunting...especially in extreme HOT and extreme COLD locations...where traction battery life peters out.
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VW was quite honest about TDI fuel economy.

Unfortunately, they sacrificed real world emissions to ensure they kept those headline figures.

Everyone else has had to downgrade their economy OR add an expensive urea-injection system (or both) to meet US NOx regulations.
The engineers at VW's competitors, after "burning the midnight oil" for so long trying to figure out why they are failing where VW "succeeded" probably figured out what VW did and tipped off the govt.
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Old 09-25-2015, 08:55 PM   #17 (permalink)
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The engineers at VW's competitors, after "burning the midnight oil" for so long trying to figure out why they are failing where VW "succeeded" probably figured out what VW did and tipped off the govt.
I was thinking along similar lines. Cruze ctd FTW

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