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Old 10-04-2023, 07:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Tested: rolling resistance of Dunlop Enasave vs. Bridgestone RE92 tires

OK! I FINALLY got around to doing this...

Within the past year or so, I happened to score both a set of nearly new Dunlop Enasaves on alloys AND a set of nearly new Bridgestone Potenza RE92's on steelies.

Both are 165/65R14 size, and are the OEM tires on the 2014-2024 (?) Mitsubishi Mirage and the 2000-2006 Honda Insight.

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The RE92 is widely regarded in the Insight community as the best tire for MPG. (The Insight has very low aerodynamic drag, so reducing rolling resistance is a key consideration because it makes up a higher proportion of total drag than the average car. It helps the car enter & maintain lean burn at higher speeds.)


Long story short: in my simple coastdown test, both tires rolled almost identical distances.





Testing details:

-- Ambient temperature: 24 C / 75 F

-- Tire pressure: 55 PSI / 3.8 bar


-- Tread depth: Enasave = 5.6 mm / 0.22", RE92 = 5.1 mm / 0.20"

-- Tire + wheel weight same for both sets (both tires are 13 lb + 14 lb wheels)

-- Each set of tires got 4 coastdown runs, plus one last run after switching back to the first set.

-- All runs done back-to-back (same day, same conditions)


-- The testing area is 2 blocks from where the car was parked overnight, so tire temperature should have been extremely close for both sets (but not measured).

-- The car was positioned at the same point on a slight hill, then allowed to roll out to a level section, where the distance was marked on the pavement.

-- To minimize the potential of brake drag affecting the results, the car was stopped/positioned using only the handbrake rather than the hydraulic (foot) brakes.



Results:

-- The average coastdown distance was around 34.7 m / 112 ft.

-- The end points for all 9 runs were clustered within the last 122 cm / 48 inches!

-- 34.6 m / 113.6 ft ... Ensave average coastdown distance

-- 34.7 m / 113.7 ft ... RE92 average coastdown distance


Conclusion

How much faith would you put in this test? Enough to say that both tires appear to have similar rolling resistance? It sure seems that way to me.

If it's a valid & accurate test, then Insight owners should be happy to know the Enasave appears to be a viable alternative to the RE92 in terms of preserving MPG performance. (There are always fears in the Insight community that the RE92 is going to be discontinued. Although it was still available as of a year or 2 ago as far as I know.)

I'm not sure which tire costs more, but that would be a consideration for many people as well.

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Old 10-04-2023, 09:25 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Only question I have is: what are the respective tread depths and tread widths
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Both sets have lots of tread - near max. I will measure and report back.

Will post a photo of the respective tread patterns too.
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Look how the tire roundness is also near the edges and measure the contact patch width. If one is 10mm narrower it propably performs better at high speed...

To measure drive first on gravel road etc to get tires little dirty and then drive over A4 paper and measure that width from paper
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Both are 165/65R14 size, and are the OEM tires on the 2014-2024 (?) Mitsubishi Mirage and the 2000-2006 Honda Insight.
Interesting. I have a set of 14" wheels with 4x100 to fit either of my Beetles. I didn't think 14s were a viable choice going forward. What's the rolling diameter?
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Having gone through the 14" rim size for my trailer replacement routine, you should note that they are going the way of the DODO for common availability. Still avail at chains on $pecial order
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Current Mirage tires?

The problem is they are slotted buggy mags, 6" and 8" widths. I could see a stanced Baja with low RR tires, the five speed and the Mileage Motor 1776. I've got those pieces.

edit: That might get the Beetle to 45MPG, just like the XFi or Dasher.
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I've been missing your tests! I have a set of RE92 tires for my Insight, but out of laziness, I'm using 185/70-14s on steel wheels. They were cheap and local! Still good for 60 MPG without trying, and the extra ground clearance is nice.
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Great comparison IMO. Even if your testing isn't perfect, it does prove out that they are very close.
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Only question I have is: what are the respective tread depths and tread widths

Measured the tread depth... haven't looked at width yet.


Added to the first post:


- Enasave = 5.6 mm / 0.22"
- RE92 = 5.1 mm / 0.20"



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