01-24-2022, 02:47 AM
|
#1 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,551
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
electrive.com: Parallel Systems reveals a rail innovation
www.electrive.com/2022/01/20/parallel-systems-reveals-a-rail-innovation/
Quote:
Parallel Systems, a company founded by former SpaceX engineers to reimagine the railroad system, [snip] is basically an autonomous rail system that consists of separate self-powered wheel units that shipping containers can sit on. These containers can join up via the self-powered, autonomous wheel units to form what the company is calling “platoons” or travel as individual units. Of course, this also means the containers can travel as a platoon for part of a journey and simply split off in different directions depending on their destination.
The Parallel System has a few rather spectacular data sets. The fact that a shipping container with these self-powered, autonomous wheel systems can travel up to 500 miles (around 800 kilometres) is great, but if the system uses only 25% of the energy of a semi-truck, that is indeed a breakthrough. Similarly, the claimed charging time of less than one hour makes this a significant solution. Also impressive is the payload capacity: Up to 128,000 lbs. / 58,000 kg. (in a double stack container formation), which Parallel says is 2.8 times more than a semi–truck.
Another advantage over traditional train systems is that freight trains would not need to be so long. Long trains require a lot of loading time and also mean that traffic has to wait for a while for large trains to pass. With Parallel Systems, a longer platoon can even split up to allow better traffic flow – which should be easily monitored with the right exchange of information.
|
On it's face, this is pretty brilliant. Take rails and shipping containers and obsolete everything inbetween. What's the problem? Who owns the rails.
Note that these are SpaceX veterans. There is obviously an opportunity here for The Boring Company, IMHO.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
Today
|
|
|
Other popular topics in this forum...
|
|
|
01-24-2022, 10:22 AM
|
#2 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Germany
Posts: 386
Thanks: 25
Thanked 183 Times in 140 Posts
|
This is a BS invention for a number of reasons:
1. They can not use a lot of existing cargo infrastructure
2. They can't use manual switches
3. Using batteries instead of overhead wires is far less efficient and has range issues
4. They would be slower than conventional freight trains (here in europe)
More reasonable alternatives:
1. conventional intermodal cars
2. Megaswing intermodal cars (pic related)
3. Battery electric locomotives for operation on short distances of non electrified rail (could charge when operating in electrified areas)
__________________
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Autobahnschleicher For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-24-2022, 02:16 PM
|
#3 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,551
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
The Megaswing is interesting. I have no idea how loading and unloading containers goes today. I doubt rail yards have overhead cranes like the shipyards.
Anyways, I doubt you'll ever see them on surface tracks. In a tunnel, the third rail is a safe alternative.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
01-24-2022, 05:16 PM
|
#4 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Apr 2021
Location: Germany
Posts: 386
Thanks: 25
Thanked 183 Times in 140 Posts
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by freebeard
The Megaswing is interesting. I have no idea how loading and unloading containers goes today. I doubt rail yards have overhead cranes like the shipyards.
Anyways, I doubt you'll ever see them on surface tracks. In a tunnel, the third rail is a safe alternative.
|
Loading/unloading does indeed usualy lack overhead wires and uses large overhead cranes for intermodal containers.
Often a small diesel locomotive is used to move them around there.
A battery electric one could be a good replacement there.
__________________
|
|
|
01-24-2022, 06:08 PM
|
#5 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,551
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
Switch yards could be autonomous with drones chasing the hobos train robbers.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
01-25-2022, 11:21 AM
|
#6 (permalink)
|
Somewhat crazed
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: 1826 miles WSW of Normal
Posts: 4,371
Thanks: 528
Thanked 1,193 Times in 1,053 Posts
|
Here in Reno /Sparks we're are using RC controlled switchers in the yard. The driver is somewhere else and is not rated as an engineer. Signs all over the place warning you it's dangerous.
Yards that do containers have a forklift device or a wheeled crane/dolly you drive the railcar underneath, but most yards don't do containers at all.
__________________
casual notes from the underground:There are some "experts" out there that in reality don't have a clue as to what they are doing.
|
|
|
The Following User Says Thank You to Piotrsko For This Useful Post:
|
|
01-29-2022, 01:55 AM
|
#7 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,551
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
I thought we were done with this, but here come the debunking videos:
Adam Something: So Someone Reinvented Trains (Again...)
Low effort, mocking the original promo with a new soundtrack.
Alan Fisher: Parallel Systems Autonomous Pod Train is an Obvious Grift
This one is better. It mentions the Megaswing, and also Road Railers. This is similar to the Talgo train (Including the AMTRAK Cascade that passes through town 2 or three times a day.) with one truck per car. My alltime favorite locomotive is the original Talgo:
Can't sleep, clowns will eat me....
Anyways the objections raised are, I think, mooted because this autonomous packetized delivery system will be in tunnels.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
01-29-2022, 07:25 PM
|
#8 (permalink)
|
Master EcoModder
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: northwest of normal
Posts: 28,551
Thanks: 8,091
Thanked 8,880 Times in 7,328 Posts
|
Is it possible Adam Something reads Ecomodder?
Leaked BORING COMPANY CARGO Investor Pitch Video
He puts 2 and 2 together; but still disses the whole idea.
__________________
.
.Without freedom of speech we wouldn't know who all the idiots are. -- anonymous poster
____________________
.
.Three conspiracy theorists walk into a bar --You can't say that is a coincidence.
|
|
|
|