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Old 04-16-2021, 03:29 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I certainly don't see EVs as the holy grail, but neither are CVTs.
The big issue is that at peak efficiency the engine produces too much power to cruise at 100 km/h.
And 300 g/kWh average are rather optimistic unless you do a lot of pulse and glide with engine off coasting.
With a warmed up small engine, tall gearing and exclusively highway driving you might get there.
But that's a rather optimistic assumption.

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I certainly don't see EVs as the holy grail, but neither are CVTs.
The big issue is that at peak efficiency the engine produces too much power to cruise at 100 km/h.
And 300 g/kWh average are rather optimistic unless you do a lot of pulse and glide with engine off coasting.
With a warmed up small engine, tall gearing and exclusively highway driving you might get there.
But that's a rather optimistic assumption.
I suspect that climate issues are the driver for BEVs, 'fueled' by renewable energy. And by 2025, BEVs are predicted to reach price parity with ICE, at which point there's no longer any economic argument favoring ICE.
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They certainly are great, but not perfect.
Nothing realy is and there is lots of potential for optimisation.
Big deal are the not required warmup to be efficient, high efficiency at low load and so on.
Downsides are the higher particle emissions than modern diesels due to higher tire and brake wear due to the higher weight.
In my country we're also producing a lot of our energy from soft coal, wich isn't at all great for our enviroment either.

The ideal car these days IMHO would be an aerodynamicly optimized serial hybrid with some 100-200 km electric range and a gasoiline/propane heater.

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